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Obama could not bring himself to state that a baby's human rights begin at birth!
ABC News ^ | August 16, 2008 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 08/16/2008 9:44:19 PM PDT by AJFavish

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To: Theo
Obama said that “whether you are looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity, you know, is above my pay grade. “

No, this is an incorrect quot. They left out the stammers and stutters. Obama sounds like an idiot without a written speech.

41 posted on 08/16/2008 10:16:38 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: taraytarah

very true and very sad...


42 posted on 08/16/2008 10:28:14 PM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: rockinqsranch

Understood on the “present” part. But as I said (and post 34 gives the accurate details) - in the past he as done more than just vote “present”. Perhaps McCain can point this out in some ads.

And VERY MUCH AGREED that we need to have a gain in Conservatives in the House and Senate regardless of who the President is.


43 posted on 08/16/2008 10:32:27 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: AJFavish

If I were on the campaign staff, I’d save this one for the end of September, beginning of October - and replay the interview with Hannity & Jill Stanek. Was it just me, or could you hear Hannity’s voice change?

This is something most don’t know, and most find shocking and not easily forgotten. Thus, you save it for later.

IMO, of course.

And from this link:

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200803/POL20080303b.html

“Obama also has been more aggressive in framing his pro-abortion position previously than he was on Sunday. When he was in the Illinois Senate, for example, he repeatedly opposed a bill that would have defined as a “person” a baby who had survived an induced-labor abortion and was born alive.

In a 2001 Illinois Senate floor speech about that bill, he argued that to call a baby who survived an abortion a “person” would give it equal protection rights under the 14th Amendment and would give credibility to the argument that the same child inside its mother’s womb was also a “person” and thus could not be aborted.

When the Illinois Senate bill was amended to make it identical to a federal law that included language to protect Roe v. Wade—and that the U.S. Senate voted unanimously to pass—Obama still opposed the bill, voting it down in the Illinois Senate committee he chaired.

Yet, in Ohio on Sunday, Obama depicted abortion as a tragedy to be avoided, while being kept legal.

“On the issue of abortion, that is always a tragic and painful issue,” he said. “I think it is always tragic, and we should prevent it as much as possible .... But I think that the bottom line is that in the end, I think women, in consultation with their pastors, and their doctors, and their family, are in a better position to make these decisions than some bureaucrat in Washington. That’s my view. Again, I respect people who may disagree, but I certainly don’t think it makes me less Christian. Okay.”


44 posted on 08/16/2008 10:37:23 PM PDT by JavaJumpy (We should be embarrassed by a presidential candidate who's embarrassed by us - Mike Church)
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To: mirkwood
"To vote 3 times to allow a doctor to kill a baby after the abortion failed. Then to lie about it."

Obviously he doesn't think that a baby's human rights begin at birth!

If the answer was "above his pay grade" he should have abstained from voting! Why then did he play the role of God and vote to destroy a helpless human life? One should always err on the side of caution.

Weasel words won't work - we all understand his thoughts on abortion and infanticide.

45 posted on 08/16/2008 10:41:08 PM PDT by Rabble
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To: Theo

And he was stupid enough to let Hillary’s people have a vote.

I still think she’s gonna get it.


46 posted on 08/16/2008 10:43:32 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: JavaJumpy
"http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200803/POL20080303b.html"

Link doesn't work- I tried changing www.cns to www.cbs and that didn't help.

47 posted on 08/16/2008 10:57:36 PM PDT by matthew fuller (I'm John McCain, and I hereby repudiate and disavow all Republican and Conservative values.)
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To: AJFavish

OMG! ...this guy gets creepier every damn day :-(
They just have to make a campaign attack ad about this.


48 posted on 08/16/2008 11:10:30 PM PDT by Bobalu (If you don't want people pointing out your flaws, maybe you should work on not having any)
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To: Rabble
As a professional fireman I have often asked St. Florian to pray for souls that have departed this coil. Seeing death happen leaves no doubt about when life ends. The soul is present...then it is gone from the body. Working backward, and having seen infants die, the soul is present in the most feeble life...even that life with just a few tablespoons of blood still pumping. A mother, crushed, once breathlessly screamed at me to save her baby (about in the middle of the third trimester) with no mention of a fetus...she wanted the other life to survive (the little one did, but not the mom). A mother with little but adrenaline sustaining life knew when it was present even as hers was leaving and yet this pathetic son of a bitch does not know where his pay grade comes into play. Well, at 47,000 greenbacks I can figure it out. As for the theology of the matter (that diatribe was my feeble attempt at the scientific/utilitarian), I do not tell every person I meet that I am a Christian and NOT a heretical scimitar waving destroyer; however, Jesus would never have performed an abortion, but I'm sure that he held that mother in his arms while I held her hand...and then he carried her home. Senator Obama should run with an engine company for a day and he would have little doubt left about life...in its newest stages or unfortunately at its abrupt end.
49 posted on 08/16/2008 11:15:25 PM PDT by T bench
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To: Salvation

That’s what happens when you write your own headline. AJF blew it.


50 posted on 08/16/2008 11:17:15 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: AJFavish
answering that question with specificity, you know, is above my pay grade.<[i>

First time he has spoke the truth! Nobama, the loser, even knows that this race is beyond his reach!

51 posted on 08/16/2008 11:43:46 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Obamacide - how to kill a nation in one easy election.)
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To: AJFavish
Favish, I don't mean to be a party pooper and am not going to hit the A button but your title is not the title.

It's the one you made up. Jake Tapper is a leftist journalist. When I saw your title I was shocked but hoped it were true.

The custom around here is to publish the original title and put your editorial title in parenthesis after that.

or editorialize in the first comment.

I know cakeboy Tapper would not have said that...if he had, it would be monumental for a lefty reporter...and would be ominous for Obama.

52 posted on 08/17/2008 12:42:51 AM PDT by wardaddy ("Cause my grey hair just can't cover up my redneck.")
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To: T bench

Most excellent post, thank you.

Welcome to FR.


53 posted on 08/17/2008 12:46:51 AM PDT by CaliGirl-R
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To: AJFavish

Knowing GOD is above his pay grade???? YIKERS!! A child is God’s GIFT....Barry is a TARD.....or EVIL.....maybe both.


54 posted on 08/17/2008 3:29:32 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: T bench

Sir, you just caused the eyes of this 55 year old to water up big time. Meeting you some day would be a privilege.


55 posted on 08/17/2008 4:48:58 AM PDT by bricklayer
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To: Ann Archy

In several liberal countries, infanticide is basically legal. This is where Obama wants to take us.

From the link below:

Postpartum depression is recognized as a legal defense in at least 29 countries, including Great Britain, Canada, Italy and Australia, Oberman said. Those countries have infanticide laws, which state that when a woman kills a child under the age of 1 and she can prove that the “balance of her mind is disturbed” by reasons relating to giving birth, the maximum charge the woman can face is manslaughter.

The practical result of these statutes is that these women receive probation instead of jail time and they receive sentences that require probation plus counseling...

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/LAW/06/28/postpartum.defense/


56 posted on 08/17/2008 4:51:21 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: DeLaine
Being President is above his pay grade.

LOL! Funny, AND true.

57 posted on 08/17/2008 7:44:33 AM PDT by syriacus (They often call me Barry, but my real name is MISTER SCHMOOZE. [by B.O. + the Faddish Hacks])
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To: Dominnae

Great minds think alike :)
Obambi’s ignorance and ability to stonewall are astounding.


58 posted on 08/17/2008 8:03:29 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (What do Obama and Osama have in common?-They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon! - Bill Ayers)
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To: AJFavish

Re: Obama said that “whether you are looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity, you know, is above my pay grade. “

So is he going to leave the decision to Bill gates?


59 posted on 08/18/2008 9:36:11 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: AJFavish

I never thought of developing and understanding my very own beliefs and principles as a paid enterprise.

I thought that’s what self aware, mature grownups were supposed to do.


60 posted on 08/18/2008 9:40:10 AM PDT by don-o (Have you donated to FR? If not, why not?)
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