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US gets ready to blow its economy away
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 17/08/2008 | Christopher Booker

Posted on 08/16/2008 6:45:28 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick

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To: PotatoHeadMick
I'm from Texas, which T. Boone Pickens wants to turn into the world's largest wind farm (taking the title away from Washington, DC). We seem to be ground zero for this idiotic wind power fantasy. Windmills are noisy, inefficient bird Cuisinarts that destroy the health of anyone unlucky enough to live near one.

As I repeatedly point put to liberals who push this nonsense, the average wind farm generates just about enough electricity to power the average wind farm.

21 posted on 08/16/2008 10:43:14 PM PDT by HHFi
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To: ken21
makes you wonder if he’s going to power his mercedes with wind energy?

No. He's so full of $hi+ that he personally produces enough methane to perpetually power the vehicle.

22 posted on 08/16/2008 10:57:52 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Vigilanteman
The Miller steam plant in Quinton, AL is a 4 GW coal fired plant when all 4 turbines are running full tilt. They only do that when necessary. Summer cooling/winter heating. I've been on the site in Spring and Fall when only one turbine was sufficient. It's a coal fired plant.
23 posted on 08/16/2008 11:00:59 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Bernard Marx
I leave the stickers off my car in Pocatello. There are enough union dimwits running around that I would certainly get keyed or "bumped". The union dimwits display "Right to work sucks" right next to their Obama stickers. The lefties wear Obama stickers on their Prius (Pious) cars. The dimwit lefty ISU students have Obama signs on their lawns...along with "End the War" stickers. It's almost like an early Halloween with all the nut jobs dressed up for all to see.
24 posted on 08/16/2008 11:08:51 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Bernard Marx; Marie2; ken21

I too live in an area where I am concerned with showing support for conservative issues. They, leftists, have indeed become violent in regards to most conservatives. For now it is vandalism and intimidation. I recall a bunch of leftists terrorizing a GOP office in Cleveland last election. They got away with it.

This cycle who knows what will happen. I don’t appreciate them coming to my home to scream at me on my front steps about their issues. I don’t know how I will be able to protect my home or property from them. I have been struggling with the idea of moving.

But, as we contemplate the fear we live in from the other party, it destroys our republic and Rights. To say there is no fascism or brownshirts etc. is a lie.


25 posted on 08/17/2008 4:19:02 AM PDT by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: theBuckwheat
For a contemporary example we can look at the issue of ethanol in motor vehicle fuels.

I don't want ethanol in my gasoline, but have no choice.

26 posted on 08/17/2008 7:39:35 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: EBH; Myrddin; Marie2; ken21
as we contemplate the fear we live in from the other party, it destroys our republic and Rights. To say there is no fascism or brownshirts etc. is a lie.

The deconstruction of traditional America into a fascist mobocracy seems nearly complete. Just like Lenin and Hitler, totalitarian American radicals have brainwashed a generation or two of privileged American kids by taking over the educational institutions, media and intellectual machinery of the country.

It's been nearly as effective as Mao's Cultural Revolution. The "peace-loving" radicalized terrorists who've emerged will not allow any voice of opposition. They deride peaceful dissent as "mean-spirited hate speech" while themselves freely indulging in their own brand of hate speech. They must silence all opposition "by any means necessary," then congratulate themselves on their own generosity and open-mindedness.

In my lifetime the country has morphed from a respectful Norman Rockwell cultural unity into something resembling a divisive, nasty Franz Kafka nightmare. Now everybody hates everybody else: young vs. old, rich vs. poor, women vs. men, gays vs. "breeders," media vs. rational common sense, Greens vs. rational common sense, etc. You don't even dare put a conservative bumper sticker on your car without fear of thuggish reprisals. That's not the America I love and respect.

This didn't just "happen." But until "flyover country" Americans muster the will to finally stand up to the Marxist architects of divisiveness I'm afraid they'll prevail.

27 posted on 08/17/2008 8:29:49 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx
But until "flyover country" Americans muster the will to finally stand up to the Marxist architects of divisiveness I'm afraid they'll prevail.

That's the fly in the ointment. The big cities full of leftists are on the coasts. They have a huge pool of voters. "Fly over country" is sparsely populated and sparsely represented. The rust belt is full of union members who dues are funneled to support the leftist politicians. Those who enjoy living on government largess are happy to rob Peter to pay Paul. They will vote for politicians that keep the government checks coming to their mailboxes.

28 posted on 08/17/2008 11:48:12 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Bernard Marx

I have been working on rereading, Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. I am at the Miracle Metal chapter where they are making the announcement to nationalize everything.

This paragraph struck me.

Boyle


Now for instance, at a time like this, when there’s such a desperate shortage of iron ore (oil), is there any sense in wasting my money, labor and national resources on make old-fashioned steel (old fashioned energy), when there exists a much better metal (energy source) that I could be making?__________________________________________________________

Rand has done an exceptional job of showing us how we will lose our country. At this point in the story it is a sweeping gesture by a few in a backroom on Capitol Hill. In real life it is a more insideous crawl although I think sweeping reforms could occur and circumstances may be setting up in the direction they need. Pelosi/Pickens Scandal is such an example.

Crisis needed: Global Warming(which is fading from the picture), Energy Crisis, Food Crisis, Economic Crisis.

Nancy: “I’m about saving the Planet.”

Aren’t you?


29 posted on 08/17/2008 3:28:29 PM PDT by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: Vigilanteman
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Yes, there are places where wind power makes sense.
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And where would an unfettered free market select wind power in preference to other forms of generation? I have yet to find an example. In part this is due to the fact that because the wind stops blowing a lot more quickly than it takes to bring a steam power plant online, the utility must have the capacity to replace the wind power up and running, causing a duplication of capital investment.

Every single place that wind power is being generated, we find distorted economic decisions at work, always funded by the taxpayers or by the customer of the utility that now will charge higher rates.

Indeed, should wind power be totally freed from government subsidies, we could very well find the towers decommissioned almost instantly. Then will come the fight over who must pay to have them dismantled. I would love to have decrepit and decaying wind power turbines dotting the landscape, each sporting a banner: Thank a “Progressive” for this massive waste of YOUR money.

30 posted on 08/17/2008 3:55:21 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat
And where would an unfettered free market select wind power in preference to other forms of generation? I have yet to find an example.

There are no shortage of examples, some dating back more than 120 years.

31 posted on 08/17/2008 4:07:55 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: PotatoHeadMick; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; IrishCatholic; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

32 posted on 08/17/2008 5:18:42 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: Vigilanteman

Cute, but no cigar. This thread and my posting was made in the context of utility-level power generation.


33 posted on 08/17/2008 7:27:32 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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