[Salvation]

**Is this Rick Warren fellow a conservative or lib?
He is pro-abortion and pro-gay rights....McCain is gonna get ambushed.**

How can Rick Warren claim to be a Christian then? I am really puzzled by this post.

[jwalsh07]

My sense is that Rick Warren is one of those guys who is "personally" opposed to abortion and homosexual marraige but he doesn't preach against either from the pulpit. Instead he embraces some new age ethics such as protecting Gaia from Global Warming. Unfortuantely he will have two men on the stage tonight who are just as ignorant as he is about the science he will question them on.

Big loser tonight is probabaly Warren unless he makes it clear that the murder of innocent babies is a greater crime than driving an SUV.

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

Rick Warren isn't overtly pro-abortion or pro-gay. People making such claims are setting themselves up to be proven wrong... in which case "Slick Rick" comes out ahead.

Warren's too smart to take positions that will alienate the evangelicals he's trying to deceive. Rather than advocate abortion and gay rights, he just takes the issues off-the-table completely and replaces them with universalist issues like the environment, poverty, AIDS and torture. That's how he operates.

Post #73 is a very eye-opening look at the type of "religious leaders" Rick Warren identifies and associates with.