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Romney Still Raises Concerns in Some Conservatives
The New York Times ^ | August 15, 2008 | Michael Luo

Posted on 08/15/2008 4:04:09 PM PDT by Plutarch

On the day Mitt Romney bowed out of the presidential race last February, his supporters latched onto something of a consolation prize that appeared to bode well for his political future: the warm embrace of hundreds of conservatives whose seal of approval he had long sought.

The enthusiastic ovations Mr. Romney received before and after his speech ending his campaign at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington seemed to signal that Mr. Romney had finally overcome doubts about his conservative credentials, as conservatives embraced him as a bona fide standard-bearer for the movement.

Yet as Mr. Romney, a former governor of Massachusetts, is said to have emerged as a top contender to be Senator John McCain’s vice-presidential running mate, a vocal segment of conservative leaders and grass-roots activists have mobilized against him, with some going out of their way to block his path to the Republican ticket.

It is unclear just how large the group of Romney detractors is and how representative it is of the broader conservative movement. Many are evangelicals who flocked to one of Mr. Romney’s rivals in the Republican primaries, Mike Huckabee, the Baptist minister and former Arkansas governor whose own hopes for making a repeat presidential run in 2012 or 2016 could suffer if Mr. Romney were named to the ticket.

Indeed, Mr. Huckabee himself aimed a few jabs at Mr. Romney this week, arguing that he would make an unacceptable vice-presidential pick because of his shifting positions on several issues...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008veep; abortion; evangelicals; huckabee; mccain; propagandawingofdnc; romney
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Kerry Murphy Healey. She is responsible for losing to Patrick. No one else. The buck stops there. Afterall we are conservatives. No excuses.

And if you said he never intended then why did he campaign for her, why did she endorse him for POTUS when she could have been “bitter” about him “throwing” her campaign, why are they still friends?


101 posted on 08/15/2008 4:55:21 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

It’s not a lightswitch. There are degrees of conservatism.


102 posted on 08/15/2008 4:56:26 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates

Norm, he did nothing but sign off on that Socialist onslaught. What do you think that picture is of him signing ? A ban on abortions ? The man you’re talking about is not the Slick Willard we know.


103 posted on 08/15/2008 4:57:01 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Plutarch
NY Times trying to plant the seeds of doubt.

Mitt is a nice addition to the ticket.

104 posted on 08/15/2008 4:57:50 PM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: Scarchin
And the bigots are checking in.

Holding folks accountable for being a part of a cult makes one a bigot?

Who knew.

105 posted on 08/15/2008 4:58:18 PM PDT by humblegunner (I'm voting for McCain because he's white.)
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To: Norman Bates

She is responsible ? She was completely and absolutely hapless. There was no way on earth she was EVER going to win. She was chosen because she NEVER was able to win an election on her own. A total non-entity and non-threat to Slick Willard. That would be the equivalent of leaving a mentally retarded janitor to oversee our nuclear development program.


106 posted on 08/15/2008 5:00:12 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I can’t believe I’m saying this but what does Sanford bring to the ticket? He is certainly a young, conservative, good looking governor with some experience, but he offers no play in any state of consequence (unless you consider NC a “swing state”). How articulate is he? He did not do well on his interview and that was the last I’ve heard of him. I think he has stated clearly he wants to return to family life. He has not been vetted (at least not to the scrutiny of a VP pick), he has never run a national campaign, he has no ready-made base of “Mark Sanford donors and grassroots supporters” outside the Carolinas. What else is there?

To be fair I would be perfectly content with Sanford as the pick. But he doens’t bring as much to the table. Romney is used to the pace of a national campaign. Sanford would need time.


107 posted on 08/15/2008 5:00:41 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Plutarch
Oh Man..

Could someone please tell Huckleberry to stuff a sock in it. He was much more likable as a rock star.

108 posted on 08/15/2008 5:00:48 PM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: Norman Bates
He also fought for life in MA.

I guess he lied massively to the people of Massachusetts, then, didn't he.

Of course, you could prove that he didn't lie by trotting out the $50 taxpayer-subsidized abortions that are part of RomneyCare.

If you do that, though, you'll call your own veracity into question...since you claim that he (lol) "fought for life."

Oh the contortions that are necessary to defend the "cover-the-road" politician!

109 posted on 08/15/2008 5:01:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Reagan: "It's morning in America." - McCain Republicans: "It's night and you'll learn to like it!")
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To: Plutarch

I oppose abortion and I object to anyone who runs around this conservative forum promoting a candidate who has supported Roe v Wade and abortion rights.

Jim has posted his opposition to the abortionist Romney before. From my perspective, you’re stinking up his house.

Obviously, I struck a nerve. Good. Your whining is noted.


110 posted on 08/15/2008 5:01:25 PM PDT by Reagan Man ( McCain Wants My Vote --- this conservative is ambivalent to the odious Johnny Mac)
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To: Rome2000; humblegunner

Hey you two -

I hear that your sheets are ready at the cleaners!


111 posted on 08/15/2008 5:01:28 PM PDT by Scarchin (Romney for VEEP)
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To: Norman Bates

Yes, but you have to actually BE one. If Howard Dean tells you he’s a Conservative, will you take him at his word ? Sorry, Norm. Actions mean something.


112 posted on 08/15/2008 5:01:41 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I toyed with the “con man” thing when the primaries were getting heavy. But that was out of spite. So there, I’m imperfect. However I don’t buy it. My head has cooled off.


113 posted on 08/15/2008 5:02:24 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Lady GOP

Indeed. A perfect running mate for Obama. Two left-wing frauds.


114 posted on 08/15/2008 5:02:31 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

What is the picture of? I don’t know. It’s a man laughing with his peers.


115 posted on 08/15/2008 5:03:29 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates

What does Sanford bring ? Integrity, experience, and accomplishment. He’s a real Conservative in deed and in word.


116 posted on 08/15/2008 5:03:41 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Plutarch

Eric Cantor or Fred Thompson for VP.


117 posted on 08/15/2008 5:04:40 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I could understand one taking the line that he doesn’t care to succeed him, but to take the line that he specifically wants an opponent to succeed him doens’t make sense, because then your successor will be defining himself as right and you as wrong. Partisans would agree.


118 posted on 08/15/2008 5:06:12 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates

Norman Bates: “BTW, I still want to know who brings more to the table than Romney - traction in several states, a ready-made base of grassroots support and donors, private and gov’t executive experience, previously vetted, youngish, articulate, strong debater.”

You appear to be suggesting it doesn’t matter what the man believes so long as he can get elected. Getting elected is certainly important, but it shouldn’t be the only concern.

Mitt simply hasn’t proven he’s a “bona fide” conservative. No way. Yet, you support him.

If you are conservative, when do you start getting what you say you believe in if you elect people who act in opposition to it? Mitt might be an acceptable candidate to some, but some of us DO see him as no better than McCain (in regards to conservatism).

Track records speak much louder than anything else, and Mitt’s record just doesn’t give me any indication he’s a small government guy. He’s moderate at best, someone who would have fit very nicely into the Democrat Party of 20 years ago.

Granted. He’s acting pretty conservative these days. I’ll give you that. Also, he certainly has ardent supporters. Nevertheless, he still has the same flaws he had when he was running and six months isn’t going to change that.


119 posted on 08/15/2008 5:06:25 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Yes, McCain will sell conservatives out. Trust that!)
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To: Norman Bates

Norm, in all the years I’ve been in politics, I’ve never seen a man as phony, as dangerous, and as deceitful as this guy. He even makes most Democrats look like rank amateurs. This guy is the ultimate Trojan Horse for their cause. And the sad part is that it’s not something hidden, it’s ALL out there for one to see. Don’t ask me, listen to other FReepers who know.


120 posted on 08/15/2008 5:06:26 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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