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1 Euro = 1.4717 US Dollars | Gold = $785
Yahoo Finanace ^ | 8 15 2008 | Yahoo Finanace

Posted on 08/15/2008 2:31:23 AM PDT by dennisw

What a turn around. I saw predictions of this three months ago. Commodities down, bubble bursting

Oil going to $80 let's hope

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: commodities; dollar; energy; energyprices; oil; trade
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1 posted on 08/15/2008 2:31:23 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Hmmm. Maybe it’s time to start thinking about a Canadian vacation again.


2 posted on 08/15/2008 2:50:47 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: dennisw

Great news. USD = 0.53+ GBP!

Which you might think would be bad news for a British person, but not one who’s heavily dollar-invested. /unseemly gloat


3 posted on 08/15/2008 3:00:52 AM PDT by agere_contra ("We are all Georgians" - John McCain)
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To: dennisw
Gold and Silver dropping big time. Bullion Direct has had the following note on their precious metals selling pages.

High Activity Market Alert
The precious metals industry is experiencing a substantial surge in activity which may increase the possibility of logistical delays; including customer service response time, product processing (incoming and outgoing), and product transport/fulfillment.

Whats going on ?

4 posted on 08/15/2008 3:03:07 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
I believe oil speculation, the price of foreign currency, and the belief that gold and silver would just keep going up in value all are turning into a bubble, just like the US housing market did 4 years ago.


5 posted on 08/15/2008 3:39:16 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: dennisw

My theory, for what it’s worth, is that Soros(democrats, pelosi, reid) were manipulating markets hoping that high gas prices would be blamed on the GOP and Bush, but that blew up in their faces, with more drilling becoming popular with the electorate. Now they are trying to take the pressure off Pelosi and Obama, but I think the drilling genie is out of the bottle with the avg. voter(they do not want $4 a gallon gas or to be dependent on the arbs and chavez).


6 posted on 08/15/2008 3:49:46 AM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: justa-hairyape

All the ratil customers are trying to sell their penny-ante gold.


7 posted on 08/15/2008 3:49:48 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov

retail


8 posted on 08/15/2008 3:51:08 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: SkyPilot

So there is a lot of people selling Gold and Silver now because they expect the bubble is bursting ? So we are entering the Fear part of the curve ?


9 posted on 08/15/2008 3:51:23 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
Whats going on ?

Commodity collapse in general. Hedge funds hopefully cannot meet margin calls and are getting killed

But also with the Russian invasion of Georgia the US Dollar looks good compared to Europe
So dollar rises against Euro and US Dollar rises against gold

USA looks like a safe haven compared to a Europe with no military
Compared to a Europe that has its energy supplies controlled by Russia

10 posted on 08/15/2008 3:52:44 AM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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Any predictions on the gold and silver bottoms?


11 posted on 08/15/2008 4:01:43 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: justa-hairyape

They don’t want to sell you the physical metal for those prices.


12 posted on 08/15/2008 4:23:29 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: agere_contra

You’re an honorary Yankee Doodle Dandy!


13 posted on 08/15/2008 4:29:50 AM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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To: dennisw

must oil stop at $80? I’m hoping for $20.


14 posted on 08/15/2008 4:36:31 AM PDT by jjw
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To: Freedom4US

I kinda figured that was part of it. So the high volume alert is just announcing that they paid too much for what they currently have in inventory to sell.


15 posted on 08/15/2008 4:36:54 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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Well as prices have tanked recently, all the online vendors have removed their inventory, although from what I understand there is somewhat of an actual shortage. The mint has suspended sales of its Eagle program, unable to procure the blanks that the coins are minted. There is somewhat of a disconnect between the futures markets and the physical market, which by definition isn’t supposed to happen.

Looks to me that some serious profit taking is going on, probably to shore up some hedge funds or whatever. Commodities were a bright spot for investors until recently.


16 posted on 08/15/2008 4:43:23 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Freedom4US

Thanks for the info. Will wait it out since I was thinking of buying, but was waiting for a good dip. For awhile there it did not look like it was ever coming. Guess I would have been caught in the Bull Trap anyway.


17 posted on 08/15/2008 4:51:23 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: jjw

$20...? Be very careful what you wish for. Our major Petroleum Companys will be facing major loses as the crude price contraction continues. High cost of product vs lower sale price expectation.

Macro problem: Russo-Persian Oil Blockage is setting up. Russia is seizing the Georgian pipeline for total control of European supply. Iran is ready to close the straits of Hormuz and the Persian Gulf. This is a potential double whammy that will cause global chaos.


18 posted on 08/15/2008 4:59:24 AM PDT by Broker (Grandpa Petti Bones wants to know.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Certainly worth thinking about, if you can find any. eBay prices are still much higher than spot? People always say that eBay isn’t a “real” market for many things, but regardless I have noticed that prices tend to be “sticky” there.


19 posted on 08/15/2008 5:06:45 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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I read on one of the threads yesterday that there was about $50 Billion moved from Russian markets to our markets on about Aug 5th or so.

That triggered computer selling of commodities because the dollar went up. Explaining why oil went down on the invasion of Georgia, and not up.

I don’t know what thread it was, I read too many yesterday :)


20 posted on 08/15/2008 5:33:01 AM PDT by Gvl_M3 (Sometimes, you have to stand up for yourself, even if it doesn't look "Compassionate.")
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