Real (not) Live Bigfoot Body On Ice

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it was found dead already.

...with a half-eaten strip of beef jerky in its cold dead paw...

I’m going to go out on a limb and assume if these things exist, they are warm blooded. Couple some tracking dogs with IR sights; should be easy enough to find a living one in a couple months.

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Yeah....un huh...

I find the whole thing VERY hard to believe....a colossal hoax?

Shouldn’t Geraldo be covering this?

As one who lives in the boondocks where there have been Bigfoot sightings, I too, have always had an open mind about the existence of the creature, but that photo shows an obvious fake. The nose is wrong, etc. It think that it is a stuffed gorilla costume put into a freezer.

Is this the info/preview?

Also: Bigfoot Tracker Sounds self-promoting.

And then again, more there ... Ut oh.

If you're too lazy to click the 2nd and third links ... here's the solid debunk; it might help to watch the YouTube video before understanding this: ____________________________________________________________________________________

Jul 21 2008, 11:54 PM

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Deep in the shadow of The Jim™ Group: Admin Posts: 2,429 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Kentwood, Michigan, USA, Terra, Sol system Member No.: 3 Bigfoot Encounter: Uncertain	So, this is what happens when I get bored, and decide to have a look at something. Officer Whitton is apparently a real person. That's sort of too bad, as I bet his Department will have a rather dim view of him participating in an online scheme seemingly designed to convince people to pay them $500, and using the "bigfoot body" and the testimony of "Dr Paul Van Buren" to somehow validate it. First, exhibit A, a photo of Officer Whitton: He seems to be the man in the video, with the cast..so we'll run with that. Now it gets interesting. He claims to have gone to the airport to pick up Dr Van Buren, and we see a bit of Dr. Van Buren in several screen shots, such as here: Now...the interesting thing is that in Texas, there also lives a man named Martin Whitton. Now, Martin happens to be a photographer. I found Martin because on the comments section of the video linked by Tube, there are several claims that "Dr Van Buren" is instead the brother of one of the people featured in the video/on the website. Later..someone says "nice to see MARTIN in these"(or something to that effect). I took that as meaning that Martin is the name of the "Dr"...so I just started adding the claimed last names of all the players to "martin" and behold, the power of google. Since we had the cops name, and he appears to be a real person...I started with him, thus, Martin Witton, Texas, was my first google. Here is the link to a photo on his photography site, which is quite interesting. http://www.mwwphoto.com/gallery/3253166_i9...180078420_BpEjH Here is a screen shot, in case said page happens to disappear. You will note the people in the shot...then please note the title of the shot. It's "family, 2006" or something along those lines. Once might even interpret that to mean it's Martins family. That would be interesting, given that somehow...both Officer Matthew Whitton, AND "Dr Paul Van Buren" seem to have managed to find their way INTO that photo...a photo taken by, and on a site owned by, a man with the same last name as Officer Whitton(and one might note, in the same city that the presumably mythical Dr Van Buren also resides, per his myspace page). Here is a fade in of Officer Whitton onto "himself" in the photo. Please note that all facial features match perfectly...even down to the mole on his right cheek. Here is a comparison of the mystery man on the far left of Mr. Martin Whitton's photo..and "Dr. Van Buren". Notice any similarities there? I will leave the conclusions as to what all this means, up to the readers, as of course I can't claim to know for certain that any "funny business" is going on. After all..maybe the DO have a bigfoot body, maybe there really IS a "Dr Van Buren who looks just like Martin Whitton, and maybe Martin Whitton is entirely unrelated to Officer Whitton, and he just happens to have a relative who is a clone of Officer Whitton, and thus there is no false claims of any kind going on, by a Police officer, in an attempt to bolster a story being used to convince people to pay $500 for a weekend in the woods. Yeah..all that could be true. I wonder what the commander of the Uniformed personnel division in the Clayton County police department would make of all of this? -------------------- If a tree falls in the forest, does anybody hear? Yes. Chuck Norris hears it. Chuck Norris can hear everything. Chuck Norris can hear the shrieking terror in your soul. Fishies are cool! Report a sighting here:

Tube View Member Profile	Jul 22 2008, 12:56 AM Post #22
Krantz Group: Member Posts: 100 Joined: 20-May 06 Member No.: 295 Bigfoot Encounter: No	Outstanding work Nightwing!! It's been several years now, and I'd have to double check the specifics for sure, but I think this is similar to what happened in the Reed UFO hoax. A man claiming to be "Dr. Reed" called in to the Art Bell show and detailed his wild UFO story. Obviously at this point it was only a radio thing. Eventually photos of "Dr. Reed" surfaced, and he was recognized as a guy really named Rutter. Yeah, most YouTube comments are useless garbage, but from time to time you see interesting stuff. I suspect Nightwing's findings will be seen in YouTube comments shortly, unless they get turned off. Remember when the news broke that Penn and Teller created the "Sonoma" video? The BFRO's webpage promoting it as real was taken down within the hour... We might see Bigfoot Tracker's YouTube videos gone in a few hours as well. -------------------- How did Bigfoot get into that elk wallow without leaving footprints? It Rickrolled.

Tube View Member Profile	Jul 22 2008, 01:44 AM Post #23
Krantz Group: Member Posts: 100 Joined: 20-May 06 Member No.: 295 Bigfoot Encounter: No	I wonder how this will affect Martin Whitton's wedding photography business? http://www.mwwphoto.com/gallery/4854194_sPwYq -------------------- How did Bigfoot get into that elk wallow without leaving footprints? It Rickrolled.

Nightwing View Member Profile	Jul 22 2008, 02:30 AM Post #24
Deep in the shadow of The Jim™ Group: Admin Posts: 2,429 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Kentwood, Michigan, USA, Terra, Sol system Member No.: 3 Bigfoot Encounter: Uncertain	Thanks Tube. That being said..I'm less then 100 percent sure on the fade in guy now..he does look older, although again, the facial features(and the mole!) seem to align. It may be due to a different stance or something, OR he may just be a close looking relative. All that aside..the Identity of "Dr Paul Van Buren, seems to be in serious doubt and if indeed as we suspect, he is this Martin guy..then I think the rest of it is irrelevant. QUOTE (Tube @ Jul 22 2008, 01:56 AM) Outstanding work Nightwing!! It's been several years now, and I'd have to double check the specifics for sure, but I think this is similar to what happened in the Reed UFO hoax. A man claiming to be "Dr. Reed" called in to the Art Bell show and detailed his wild UFO story. Obviously at this point it was only a radio thing. Eventually photos of "Dr. Reed" surfaced, and he was recognized as a guy really named Rutter. Yeah, most YouTube comments are useless garbage, but from time to time you see interesting stuff. I suspect Nightwing's findings will be seen in YouTube comments shortly, unless they get turned off. Remember when the news broke that Penn and Teller created the "Sonoma" video? The BFRO's webpage promoting it as real was taken down within the hour... We might see Bigfoot Tracker's YouTube videos gone in a few hours as well. -------------------- If a tree falls in the forest, does anybody hear? Yes. Chuck Norris hears it. Chuck Norris can hear everything. Chuck Norris can hear the shrieking terror in your soul. Fishies are cool! Report a sighting here:

Jay View Member Profile	Jul 22 2008, 05:05 AM Post #25
Southern Fried Sweetness Group: Member Posts: 316 Joined: 5-June 05 Member No.: 126 Bigfoot Encounter: Yes	Nightwing, excellent work! -------------------- Live your life in such a way that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, the devil shudders & says... "Oh no....she's awake!!" If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around.

Pywacket View Member Profile	Jul 22 2008, 05:28 AM Post #26
Krantz Group: Member Posts: 111 Joined: 25-July 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 327 Bigfoot Encounter: Yes	QUOTE (Tube @ Jul 22 2008, 01:44 AM) I wonder how this will affect Martin Whitton's wedding photography business? http://www.mwwphoto.com/gallery/4854194_sPwYq Well, he may be in this hoax to bolster his business. His website says that the he is scheduled to do over 20 weddings in 2008. Which could mean that he has 21 weddings scheduled. As a retired professional photographer, I would hope that his portrait photography business is doing better, cause you can't live on 21 weddings a year. Over on the GCBRO message board, we have an individual claiming that they are stomping around his research area in West Texas. Hmmm? -------------------- http://www.sasquatchprimetime.blogspot.com/ "Well, hell yeah, son...of course they're watching you. They don't have TV's.....you're the entertainment!" Monster Hunter

wolftrax View Member Profile	Jul 22 2008, 10:47 AM Post #27
Krantz Group: Member Posts: 178 Joined: 28-May 05 Member No.: 18	Night, you are right about Officer Whitton matching, great job! His features won't totally match up on a 2D plane because his head is held at 2 different angles, but copy and paste the mustache and grown hair to the Officer's photo, and it's a match. This post has been edited by wolftrax: Jul 22 2008, 10:58 AM Attached File(s) OFF_WHITTON_COMP.jpg ( 309.84K ) Number of downloads: 31

Fi Fi Le' Pew View Member Profile	Jul 22 2008, 11:47 AM Post #28
Krantz Group: Member Posts: 206 Joined: 22-August 07 From: Indiana Member No.: 1,846 Bigfoot Encounter: Uncertain	Nightwing you are correct about Dr. Paul Van Buren being Martin Whitton. A new video has been put up on youtube that flat out states the good Dr. is indeed Martin Whitton. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi0njBionu8 -------------------- I have a Crap-O-Meter, and it is pegged. Analytical Mechanics

Fi Fi Le' Pew View Member Profile	Jul 22 2008, 12:14 PM Post #29
Krantz Group: Member Posts: 206 Joined: 22-August 07 From: Indiana Member No.: 1,846 Bigfoot Encounter: Uncertain	The latest from Matt Whitton. Admitting the hoaxing of Paul Van Buren. But they still claim they actually have a body and will be writing a book. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9SUvRQHoJg&quot This post has been edited by Dr. Onion: Jul 22 2008, 12:16 PM -------------------- I have a Crap-O-Meter, and it is pegged. Analytical Mechanics

MWhitton View Member Profile	Jul 22 2008, 04:43 PM Post #30
Byrne Group: Member Posts: 2 Joined: 22-July 08 Member No.: 11,583 Bigfoot Encounter: Uncertain	Nightwing: Excellent work! I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out how you superimposed one photo on top of another on your screenshots of the mwwphoto website - but I'm no tech guru! But you say you've got lots of time on your hands, so I'm sure you’ve been working at this sort of thing for some time. May I suggest something more productive during all of your free time, like volunteer work?! It can be really fun and rewarding, plus it’ll get you out of the house and away from the computer. Any who, you should check out the latest video posted to YouTube admitting that the whole Van Buren thing was a fraud; It's hilarious. Imagine this whole time that Van Buren was a stuffed bear!! Who would've thought it?! I just wish the whole charade could've gone on a little longer. You really know how to ruin some good 'ol harmless redneck fun! Speaking of fun, I know you're just trying to get your chuckles too, but did you know that you violated U.S. Copyright law by posting copyrighted photos from a professional photographer's website (mwwphoto.com) onto the Bigfoot Discussions website? Please remove your posting (or at least all the copyrighted photographs - I certainly don't want to restrict your free speech!) from this posting and any other location you may have posted copyrighted photographs. If you have additional questions regarding copyright law, and I’m sure that I’m preaching to the choir here, don’t hesitate to utilize Google.com as a research tool. I found this interesting FAQ page on Federal Copyright Laws using your favorite website. Here’s one of the little nuggets I discovered: “The Copyright Act is federal law, not state law. Consequently, the law is uniform throughout the United States. Also, since the United States has signed several international copyright agreements, copyright protection is effective essentially all over the world. Generally, owners of copyright have the exclusive right to use and copy their works. Copyright owners can also authorize others to use their works. The use or copying of any work [including photographs] without permission from the owner of the copyright is a violation of the United States Copyright Act.” - http://www.photolaw.net/faq.html I greatly appreciate your cooperation. Best of luck in debunking other harmless hoaxes in the future! -MWhitton

Stacy Flowers View Member Profile	Jul 22 2008, 04:47 PM Post #31
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Fi Fi Le' Pew View Member Profile	Jul 22 2008, 04:58 PM Post #32
Krantz Group: Member Posts: 206 Joined: 22-August 07 From: Indiana Member No.: 1,846 Bigfoot Encounter: Uncertain	OMG! Is that Officer Whitton or his brother Martin? This post has been edited by Dr. Onion: Jul 22 2008, 04:59 PM [snip]

Given the people involved, I would weigh more on the side of hoax. Also, some savvy skeptics found a bigfoot suit that matches the head of the one in the freezer EXACTLY!

well how do you make money from something unless you have the time to drum up interest and work out details. i say these guys should make as much as possible.

A hairy man with big feet has been found.

Michael Medved is “open minded” on bigfoot sightings because he himself has had one. He’s a believer, not just “open minded”.

Jerry Rivers will open the freezer live on tv and, it’ll be empty.

This officer sounds like a complete and utter jackass. I’d like to think that this sort of conduct would be harshly punished by his superiors, but maybe I’m giving them too much credit.

Not funny, dude. Politics and appearance aside, Helen Thomas is a real person.

I’m not hitting the Abuse Button; I’ll leave you to do that yourself.

Friday... at which time Ashton Kutcher will appear and say, “Dudes, you’ve been Punk’d!”

I’ve never heard Michael talk about his experience. Any way to find that?

How does this fare for Tom Biscardi? I mean, he’s really looking bad now since this is a hoax and he claims it’s real.

from 2001:

Things Get Hairy For 'Sasquatch In Freezer' Hoaxster
FarShores News
Simon Garth blames his mischievous buddies for the 15 minutes of fame he received when a practical joke gone awry spurred national reports that he had a Bigfoot monster stored in his freezer... "It's been a fun day," he said Friday. "I wish I did have Bigfoot in a meat locker." ...David Moye the Wireless Flash reporter who wrote the story said Garth was in on the joke from the start, but cried wolf when he was bombarded with telephone calls. Moye ran a second story Friday that said Garth admitted his Bigfoot tale was nothing more than a stunt designed to get him a guest shot on Howard Stern's morning radio show... Garth disagrees. He claims his friends used his name and cell phone number, unbeknownst to him, to carry out the hoax. Furthermore, Garth said his friends were the ones who called Moye on Friday to admit the story was false... While scanning eBay, the popular Internet auction site, Moye said he noticed that Garth claimed to have Bigfoot's corpse and had placed the monster's soul up for auction.

I don’t have a way to find it but he has brought it up on his show several times.

He’s also devoted at least an hour to ghost sightings or some other paranormal topic. He claimed that when he was much younger (college age?) he camped out on one of the old Civil War battlefields and swears that he saw a ghost army of sorts.

I catch 1-3 hours of his shows often (but not always).

There is this:
http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/About.aspx

Dan Sytman, Michael’s producer and partner on the radio show, once saw Bigfoot at the edge of a summer camp in the woods. Even before meeting Dan, Michael was a passionate believer in Sasquatch.

And just in case people didn’t know...

“His classmates at law school included Hillary Rodham (a friend) and Bill Clinton (who he always disliked), while two of his best friends were Lanny Davis and Greg Craig-both of whom played crucial roles in President Clinton’s defense in the impeachment crisis. Other law school classmates included Clarence Thomas, Robert Reich and Lani Guanier.”

(he used to be a liberal but had a change of politics in the 1970s)

..

Note, I may have gotten it wrong about Medved saying that he personally witnessed Bigfoot, he may have been saying it was his producer...