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To: Dajjal
"According to TexasDarlin, the evidence is that Soetoro is still his legal name from childhood (c. 1966), and his birth name Obama has become his alias."

Texas Darlin says that Barack Hussien Obama is his legal name ISN'T IT.? They are going under the theory that Barack Hussien Obama was his birth name.

I am not sure that Obama was ever his legal last name. There is no marriage license to be found for Obama Senior and his mother Stanley Ann Dunham, and Barack Jr. in his own book says he never pressed the issue as to where, when or even if his mother was married.

Since a lot of us think the BC put our for Barack Hussien Obama is fake I believe he was an illegitamate child and his last name on the BC would have been his mothers last name, Dunham, (Thats the way it was back then) I think when she married Lolo Soetoro he then adopted Barack (Barry) and the original BC under Dunham was sealed. The reason I believe this is because if Barack Hussien Obama's name was on the birth certificate he would have had to give up ALL rights to the child in order for Soetoro to adopt him and there would be a record showing that he did that.

163 posted on 08/13/2008 9:30:13 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Spunky; Dajjal
It's also possible that his legal name is "Dunham" - one aspect of the working theory is that there was a second legal proceeding, in the early 1970's, wherein the grandparents, Madelyn Payne Dunham, and Stanley Armour Dunham, became the legal guardians, thereby allowing "Obama" to attend high school as "Barry Dunham":
Obama Citizenship Controversy - Did Obama Travel to Pakistan on an Indonesian Passport? A Summary.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2059717/posts
The interesting aspect of that theory is that it explains the infamous "airport" photographs - Obama Sr would have had to fly in from Kenya to testify that he was the birth father, not Lolo Soetoro.
165 posted on 08/13/2008 9:35:01 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: Spunky
"According to TexasDarlin, the evidence is that Soetoro is still his legal name from childhood (c. 1966), and his birth name Obama has become his alias."

Texas Darlin says that Barack Hussien Obama is his legal name ISN'T IT.?

No.

They are going under the theory that Barack Hussien Obama was his birth name.

Yes.

Your theory could be right, but TexasDarlin's latest theory is that:

A. Stanley and Obama Sr. got married (in bigamy, while she was preggers already), and that wherever the kid was born, he was given the name Barack Hussein Obama Jr. (or II).

B. Then circa 1966 Stanley married Soetoro and the kid's name was legally changed to Barry Soetoro.

C. That as a teenager the kid decided to go by "Barack Hussein Obama" -- but never followed Hawaiian law for changing his name (even the common law useage law).

D. So "Barry Soetoro" remains his legal name, while he has been running around for years calling himself Barack Obama.

That's her theory, anyway.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/is-his-legal-name-obama-or-soetoro-act-now/

172 posted on 08/13/2008 9:45:20 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: Spunky
The reason I believe this is because if Barack Hussien Obama's name was on the birth certificate he would have had to give up ALL rights to the child in order for Soetoro to adopt him and there would be a record showing that he did that.

There's an idea. Scour advertisements in the Kenyan newspapers from that time period for an announcement of the adoption of Barack by his new step-father. The announcement would also contain details for Barack's birth father to contact the courts in Hawaii should he wish to contest the adoption.

214 posted on 08/13/2008 11:45:46 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Spunky
The reason I believe this is because if Barack Hussien Obama's name was on the birth certificate he would have had to give up ALL rights to the child in order for Soetoro to adopt him and there would be a record showing that he did that.

There may be a record, but by law, adoption records, including the birth cert, are sealed and can only be opened by court order at the request of the adoptee, adoptive parents, or in the case of identifying info, the birth parents -- in this case, all of these are dead, except for the presumed adoptee.

Without a court order by the adoptee to open the record,  there's no way, as far as I can tell, to even know if a record exists.

Here's a good site with link to state statutes, and a downloadable pdf file of a summary of state laws:

Access to Adoption Records
State Statutes Series

 

262 posted on 08/14/2008 6:50:55 AM PDT by browardchad
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