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To: SatinDoll
The reason I didn't reference you on my earlier posts regarding "dual citizenship" is that your allegations fail to link, edit and go. The program failed. The coding was bad.

Deal is "citizenship" is something states concern themselves with, not babies.

As far as having dual citizenship is concerned, under the then prevailing standard of law in all the relevant courts George Washington held dual citizenship!

Here's the problem ~ knowing what I know about dual citizenship and George Washington, I really despise you people who want to make a charge about Obama that is equally applicable to the Founder of our Country. Just exactly what are you trying to do? Is it to make Obama out to be a great guy or what? If so, you are in the wrong website.

39 posted on 08/13/2008 4:48:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Huh ? Article II specifically accounted for George Washington et al

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;...
61 posted on 08/13/2008 4:58:39 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: muawiyah

George Washington is irrelevant to this discussion. As for the particulars of why, go to Judah Benjamin’s excellent reasearch and read. It’s on Texasdarlin’s blog.


63 posted on 08/13/2008 5:00:09 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: muawiyah

Just to be clear, are you saying you would have no problem with a US President who has dual allegiance, allegiance to the US of A and to another country?


67 posted on 08/13/2008 5:02:34 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: muawiyah

I would argue that Washington would have said he renounced his british citizenship when he became the General in charge of American forces. By separating from Britain the colonists were no longer British citizens, but Americans.

He did not possess dual citizenship.


102 posted on 08/13/2008 5:28:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: muawiyah

Valid point. The ONLY issue that is fair to pursue is what was the US law regarding Indonesia? Someone posted something saying Indonesia and US precluded dual citizenship at one time. There is little in the Constitution about dual-citizenship, if anything. The only thing I can think of offjhand is the issue of titles of nobility etc. This MAY be an issue if 527s want to pursue the appearance, but the law may be clear, and the RNC/McCain should NOT pursue this in public.


103 posted on 08/13/2008 5:29:34 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama is hiding something about his birth, parents or name- but what?)
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To: muawiyah
I don't know if there is any genuine basis for this whole line of discussion re dual citizenship and Barry.

As far as having dual citizenship is concerned, under the then prevailing standard of law in all the relevant courts George Washington held dual citizenship!

But I do think your argument re Washington is specious and irrelevant to the subject of Obama's supposed citizenship questions. GW lived here before the US was, and after it became, a country. Not comparable to anyone here today.

This is an entertaining discussion, but let us not take our eye off the ball. Baring some sort of major revelation with serious evidence breaking into the MSM, this isn't going to go anywhere in the battle to defeat BHO.

We have to beat this socialist by showing who he is, what he really believes, what he is (or is not) capable of doing, and what he has actually done.

133 posted on 08/13/2008 5:58:53 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: muawiyah
No one is trying to make BOH look like a great guy, but I have never heard of Washington having dual citizenship. It might be argued since we are not a country at the time, that he was part of England and the newly founded US of A. But that should of changed things when the Declaration of Independence was written. No-one qualified at the time to be President under current law, because in actuality, everyone was a citizen of England until they declared their Independence.
The United States Constitution, drafted in 1787, did not explain citizenship, but it did mention “citizens of the States” and a “citizen of the United States.” Citizens of the United States became entitled to the rights guaranteed to them by the Constitution and its later amendments. Among these rights were the right to vote, own property, seek elective office, and to be protected by the laws of the land.

Because the young United States followed British common law, it accepted the rule of jus soli, or place of birth. As early as 1790, Congress recognized the rule of jus sanguinis, or blood relationship, by passing laws giving citizenship to a child born in a foreign country if the father was a citizen of the United States.

So how much do you really know about dual citizenship again?

147 posted on 08/13/2008 6:18:04 PM PDT by claymax ("Remember upon the conduct of each depends the fate of all." Alexander the Great)
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To: muawiyah

I just re-read your post...sorry I jumped in. i’ll shut up now.


167 posted on 08/13/2008 7:58:55 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: muawiyah
"I really despise you people ..."

Now that's just not nice!

Also, George Washington having dual citizenship is a ridiculous argument.

You are investing a lot of emotion in your posts.
184 posted on 08/14/2008 1:13:26 AM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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