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To: piasa
"You're kind of overlooking the fact that we were already planted in Georgia BEFORE the Russian invasion, and had things continued as they were going Georgia was going to peacefully plant itself in NATO. We didn't need to plant ourselves there twice when things were already going our way."

And you are "kind of overlooking the fact" that things were NOT going our way re Georgia and the Ukraine joining NATO. Or sure, Georgia wanted it, but France and Germany shot it down a couple months ago for exactly this reason -- they didn't want to have to go to war with Russia over a stupid border dispute in Georgia.

You do realize that had Georgia been a NATO member right now, we would be at war with Russia, don't you?

You can bitch about "old Europe having no guts" and you would be partially right. But it's also a matter of this being on their continent, not ours -- Europe would suffer the fallout far worse than we would from a war with Russia, including losing 40% of their oil supply, which is why they are staying out of this one as much as possible!

We have been pushing for a confrontation with Russia for a while now, bringing NATO almost to its doorstep, putting in a missile system in Poland and Czech Republic, etc. Now you can argue that this might be "good and necessary", etc to protect Europe from Russia. But let's not pretend that it is anything other than what it is -- cornering and threatening Russia in her own backyard.

99 posted on 08/13/2008 5:40:03 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

You are correct. With the internal conflict and potential for external conflict there was no way Georgia was going to become a NATO member in the foreseeable future.


105 posted on 08/13/2008 7:51:05 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.)
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