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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
"I haven't forgotten about it. I'm still waiting for you to demonstrate why identifying the first life forms and how they got here is relevant to what happened after they were here. You keep saying it is, but you don't offer any support."

Which is exactly why my point from the beginning was, "Unless you identify which biological systems you believe spontaneously generated themselves, you are committing the fallacy of exclusion."

I even addressed this specifically TO YOU when I said, "It all depends on what you define as a 'first life form' and what biological systems that alleged life form would have that were spontaneously generated without evolution. If any selection is involved in the appearance of this first 'life form', then evolution was involved and the fallacy of exclusion applies." That was posed TO YOU way back in post 658.

711 posted on 08/19/2008 3:08:17 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
Which is exactly why my point from the beginning was...

Repeating yourself isn't helping. I think you must be making a point that you consider so self-evident that you can't figure out how to explain it. Walk me through it:

You claim that evolutionary scientists commit the fallacy of exclusion if they don't address the origin and nature of whatever preexisted self-replicating life forms. Is that correct?

For that to be a fallacy of exclusion, information about that "whatever" must be relevant to the evolutionary behavior of self-replicating life forms. Do you agree?

If you agree, can you explain the relevance?

716 posted on 08/19/2008 3:39:51 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: GourmetDan

“Yeah, but if you exclude whatever makes my theory fall apart, my theory holds together quite well!”


734 posted on 08/20/2008 5:18:33 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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