Posted on 08/11/2008 4:36:30 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
As the Olympic Games opened, the tragic and ominous conflict between Georgia and Russia erupted as well. On Thursday of last week, South Ossetian separatists, supported by Moscow, escalated their machine gun and mortar fire attacks against neighboring Georgian villages. This past Thursday and Friday, Georgia attacked the separatist capital Tskhinvali with artillery to suppress fire. Tskhinvali suffered severe damage, thus providing the pretext for Moscow's long-planned invasion of Georgia. As Russia responded with overwhelming force, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin flew from the Beijing Olympics to Vladikavkaz, taking control of the military operations. Putin sidelined his successor, Dmitry Medvedev, thereby leaving no doubt as to who is in charge. The 58th Russian Army of the North Caucasus Military District rolled into South Ossetia, reinforced by the 76th Airborne "Pskov" Division. Cossacks from the neighboring Russian territories moved in to combat the Georgians as well. Russia is engaged in a classic combined arms operation. The Black Sea Fleet is blockading Georgia from the sea and likely preparing a landing, while Russian ballistic missiles and its air force are attacking Georgian military bases and cities. At the time of this writing, it looks as if Russian troops will not stop at the South Ossetian-Georgian border but may press their advantage further. Russia's goals for the war with Georgia are far-reaching and include:
Post-Soviet Border Revisionism: The Challenge to Europe's Status Quo Russian relations with Georgia were the worst among the post-Soviet states. In addition to fanning the flames of separatism in South Ossetia since 1990, Russia militarily supported separatists in Abkhazia (1992-93), which is also a part of Georgian territory. Russia also had a cantankerous relationship with then-Georgian President Eduard Shevardnadze, the former Soviet foreign minister, whom hardliners in Moscow blamed for the Soviet withdrawal from Central and Eastern Europe. In the 1990s, there were two assassination attempts against Shevardnadze, and elements of the Russian state, such as secret services or military intelligence, came under suspicion both times. Russia has long prepared its aggression against Georgia's pro-Western President Mikheil Saakashvili, in order to undermine his rule and prevent Georgia from joining NATO. Despite claims about oppressed minority status, the separatist South Ossetian leadership is mostly ethnic Russians, many of whom served in the KGB, the Soviet secret police, the Russian military, or in the Soviet communist party. In recent years, Moscow granted the majority of Abkhazs and South Ossetians Russian citizenship and moved to establish close economic and bureaucratic ties with the two separatist republics, effectively enacting a creeping annexation of both territories. Use of Russian citizenship to create a "protected" population residing in a neighboring state to undermine its sovereignty is a slippery slope that is now leading to a redrawing of the former Soviet borders. Chilling Language, Strategic Actions Aggression against Georgia also sends a strong signal to Ukraine and Europe. Russia is playing a chess game of offense and intimidation. Former president and current Prime Minister Vladimir Putin spoke last spring about Russia "dismembering" Ukraine, another NATO candidate, and detaching the Crimea, a peninsula that was transferred from Russia to Ukraine in 1954, when both were integral parts of the Soviet Union. Today, up to 50 percent of Ukrainian citizens speak Russian as their first language, and ethnic Russians comprise approximately one-fifth of Ukraine's population. With encouragement from Moscow, these people may be induced to follow South Ossetia and Abkhazia to Mother Russia's bosom. Yet Ukraine's pro-Western leaders, such as President Victor Yushchenko and Prime Minister Yulia Timoshenko, have expressed a desire to join NATO, while pro-Moscow Ukrainian Party of Regions effectively opposes membership. NATO opponents in Ukraine are greatly encouraged by Russia's action against Georgia. Beyond this, Russia is demonstrating that it can sabotage American and European Union (EU) declarations about integrating Commonwealth of Independent States members into Western structures such as NATO. By attempting to accomplish regime change in Georgia, Moscow is also trying to gain control of the energy and transportation corridor¾which connects Central Asia and Azerbaijan with the Black Sea and ocean routes overseas--for oil, gas and other commodities. A pro-Russian regime in Georgia will also bring the strategic Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline and the Baku-Erzurum (Turkey) gas pipeline under Moscow's control. Such a development would undermine any options of pro-Western orientation for Azerbaijan and Armenia, along with any chances of resolving their conflict based on diplomacy and Western-style cooperation. The West's Hour of Truth The United States and its European allies must take all available diplomatic measures to stop Russian aggression. The U.S. and its allies need to demand that Russia withdraw all its troops from the territory of Georgia and recognize its territorial integrity. Furthermore, the U.S. and Europe need to internationalize the conflict. Russian desire to be viewed as upholder of international law needs to be turned against Moscow. The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), the EU and the United Nations should send other international observers to Georgia, while mediation efforts to withdraw Russian forces need to be expedited. Talks need to start in a neutral forum, such as the OSCE, to finally settle the South Ossetian matter as well as future Abkhazian problems. This can be done by granting these territories full autonomy within the Georgian state, as Tbilisi has repeatedly suggested. Beyond this, the United States, its allies, and other countries need to send a strong signal to Moscow that creating 19th-century-style spheres of influence and redrawing the borders of the former Soviet Union is a danger to world peace. Moscow's plan cannot be accomplished without violation of international law and is likely to result in death and destruction--a price that neither the Russian people nor others should pay. The U.S. and its European allies should communicate to Moscow that Russia has much to lose--including hosting the 2014 winter Olympics in the Black Sea resort of Sochi, membership in the G-8, and access to Western markets--if the Georgian aggression is not stopped. Ariel Cohen, Ph.D., is Senior Research Fellow in Russian and Eurasian Studies and International Energy Security in the Douglas and Sarah Allison Center for Foreign Policy Studies, a division of the Kathryn and Shelby Cullom Davis Institute for International Studies at The Heritage Foundation. |
When the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan even Jimmah Carter was able to convince NATO members to increase defense spending on an escalating scale as a % of GDP as a response.
That’s what we should be shooting for. NATO is perilously weak right now. That has to change.
What would bother Putin more than anything would be a strong NATO.
Not sure it could be done today...
1. fight the war ourselves,The first should be approached with caution, the second is only viable in the long-term (events are proceeding too rapidly for it to make a difference right away), and the third is actually misses some options (with regard to putting pressure on the Russians).
2. have others fight it for us, or
3. pursue diplomatic measures.
Frankly, if people are planning on lambasting the author for being weak, then they should put something on the table. I've noticed that not many can.
For information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_South_Ossetia_War
Wikipedia is trying to keep a daily log but there is “vandalism” going on and they have taken steps to curtail biased postings.
Really don’t care about that aspect of the page.
There is an order of battle comparing the Georgian Armed Forces (about 32,000 total, about 18,000 ground forces) and the regional Russian armed forces (about 100.000 ground forces). All the other matchups are lopsided as well.
It will be interesting to see how far things will go before the Russians decide to halt.
I'm surprised I haven't seen it on any of the other threads--someone is slacking off:
What Would Ron Paul Do?
You're right, and thats why I think the Georgians caught us flat-footed on this one. They may have thought they had just provocation to move, but I don't believe they thought it all the way through. And while we have people training them, I don't think we were involved in the planning, or they would have had a better back-up plan.
So we are caught in a difficult position. We don't have a lot of good options, but we don't have the luxury of doing nothing either. Too many others are looking on to see what we do.
Ron Paul would sensibly stay out of this mess. If the South Ossetians want to secede, the U.S. should not stop them.
But if (emphasis on the if) the Russians rolled over those guys with their armor it would make the debacle at Mogadishu look like a picnic.
How about South Texas (or his Congressional District) seceding to Mexico? He’d have a problem with that . . . could he explain his seemingly contradictory position?
Agreed. But Putin would have to think long and hard about rolling over american forces in his “peacekeeping mission” Yes the americans would be over run by the 100 or so tanks. But I personally do not think Putin has the stones. That said if he does we better have the b 52’s and missles warming up in the bullpen
“I wonder what the Russian people think of what their govt is up to in Georgia?”
They were told it was only one of 57 states, and it was none of their business.
I suspect that these days most US border towns now have more Mexican citizens living in them than US citizens. Should we just cede the territory over to Mexico?
You mean the folks who bent over and took it fast and hard for 70 years? the people who, given a brief glimpse of freedom, chose thugs and gangsters to lead them? those people? they're probably thinking about where to get another bottle of vodka.
Thanks. Good point. I believe they did mention the USA fighting there too. (Which is obviously untrue) The Russians get fed a lot of propaganda Putin never went for the whole Free Press concept.
Good summary. Thanks for posting.
Most of them probably dont even know theres a war going on. Russians are an incredibly ignorant people (I dont mean that as an insult, just stating what Ive observed).
Yeah, the russian women would do anything to get out of there.
So when is Obama going over there and “Lay His Hands” on the Leaders and stop the shooting??
Russians are an incredibly ignorant people
You may have “observed” rudeness under the influence...I have been there three times and never observed any such thing. I see far more rudeness and ignorance right here on in your posting.
The Russian people have suffered so much by Commies and now that they have been liberated from Communism and have repeatedly rejected it giving the centrists overwhelming majorities-—they are ambushed by stupid comments like yours.
The Georgiam politicos should apologize and get back to their own country’s affairs preferably without the pimp soros cabal. Or they should go to the Kennedy Harvard School of Government and hang out with other failed stooges.
And let the Ossetians live in peace without them!
Yikes! Didn’t mean to offend you. Alot of russian men drink too much, and the women want out of there. That is all I was saying. Sorry to offend you.
How about South Texas (or his Congressional District) seceding to Mexico?
That’s what Kosovo did and we supported the Muslim albanians bombing our allies the Serbs to smithereens during Easter.
South Ossetia has never been historically part of Georgia—its joining with Georgia was a de jure creation of Stalin.
They need to make their own relationships without Georgia — that is what they want -
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