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W.Va. offers licenses for those who fear 'beast'[Drivers License][Mark of the Beast]
AP ^ | 08 Aug 2008 | AP

Posted on 08/11/2008 11:40:28 AM PDT by BGHater

West Virginia started Friday keeping driver's license photos out of a computer database for members of a small religious group who believe digital storage is a "mark of the beast" that evokes biblical prophecy.

State Division of Motor Vehicles Commissioner Joseph Cicchirillo said the group of about 50 or 60 Christians, who are not affiliated with a particular church, contacted the agency two or three years ago to object to their pictures "being on a database that can be exchanged throughout the world or hacked into."

One of the group members is Phil Hudok, who made headlines in 1999 when he was fired as a Randolph County school teacher for refusing to require his students to wear bar-coded identification badges. Hudok was later reinstated after a circuit judge said the school board had made no attempt to accommodate his religious beliefs.

Hudok and other members of his group have said bar codes and digital storage of photos are a way of numbering people, which they liken to a warning in the Bible's book of Revelation about a "mark of the beast" indicating the arrival of the Antichrist.

To accommodate their beliefs, state officials decided to issue driver's licenses to the group members that are exactly like other West Virginia licenses except that the individual photos will be removed from the computer immediately after they are taken by a digital camera.

Instead of being stored digitally, an 8-by-11-inch hard copy of each picture will be printed out and kept in a file. All other information, including birth dates and driving records, will be in the computer system, Cicchirillo said.

Without this accommodation, group members wouldn't get their driver's licenses, which the commissioner said would hamper their ability to get everyday services from insurance coverage to check cashing.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: 666; beast; christians; drivers; licenses; privacy; prophecy; westvirginia
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To: kcm.org
Believers are being portrayed as nut jobs...tough, we are still growing and believing.

What that a drivers license is the mark of the beast?,thats crazyness worthy of islam

21 posted on 08/11/2008 12:52:13 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
NONSENSE You allow this then you have to start making all sorts of exceptions

I would agree. I'd be curious as to where in the bible these folks get the idea that digital storage of pictures is the mark of the beast.

22 posted on 08/11/2008 12:55:12 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: F15Eagle

“But when it does come all the mocking will cease. God’s Word will come to pass; you can take that to the bank. We just don’t know exactly when.”


That is correct.


24 posted on 08/11/2008 12:56:46 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Wyzo; 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
668

The Neighbor of The Beast.

You should ping him if you are gonna talk about him...

25 posted on 08/11/2008 1:00:52 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (No longer welcome in my own 'happy place'.)
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To: BGHater

Sheesh! Every retrobate and tinfoil-hatted bobo in WV is going to scream equal protection and demand their photos be removed as well. I can’t believe they are doing it so that these wierdos can cash their checks. I don’t know of too many reputable places that will cash checks without a photo ID, or are these people going to be allowed to claim civil rights violations? Another example of the Tyranny of the Minority and how unbridled political correctness is destroying us bit by bit. Next thing they’ll ban the use of the phrase “common sense” as it will hurt the feelings of those who don’t have it, like those involved in this stupidity.


27 posted on 08/11/2008 1:08:01 PM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

ALL driver’s licenses are invalid identification for boarding aircraft.

There are too many corrupt employees within the DMV selling legitimate IDs knowingly to people of middle easter origin who are ILLEGALLY in this country. Some cases have been prosecuted in Illinois and Tennessee.

The cards are compromised. We should be using passports. We were already checking driver’s licenses for domestic flights in 2001. Fat lot of good it did us.


28 posted on 08/11/2008 1:26:06 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: MEGoody
It has to do in part with the synching code that resembles the bar coding for 6. I think it is the first, middle, and end bar code sequence.


29 posted on 08/11/2008 1:28:05 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: BGHater; trumandogz
object to their pictures "being on a database that can be exchanged throughout the world or hacked into."

Given the rather low competency of the average govt employee, they may have a point.

30 posted on 08/11/2008 1:29:07 PM PDT by ikka
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To: F15Eagle
I know you and I would have many disagreements on scripture, but here's my take on the "mark of the beast".

If you are a Christian the Holy Spirit lives within you, you are owned by God. You have the mark of the Holy Spirit, Satan can not do anything about it, he can never mark you as one of his. The mark of the beast is an allegorical(I think that's the term) Figure of speech that readers of that century would of understand, and the number thing they would of understood too since they had meanings for certain numbers back then.

Masters of slaves would mark their slaves on their forehead or hand, What God was and is trying to say through John is that those that are a slaves of Satan or are sons of Satan will have (figuratively speaking) the mark of the beast, Satan. Satan can not mark those that are owned by God because God has sealed us.

What goods does it do to live by physical bread alone, you will still die eventually, but if you live by the living bread which only Jesus can give you, you will never die.

As far as any further arguing or discussion about what the Mark of the beast is, I'm not going to do it, it's not worth the time and effort.

31 posted on 08/11/2008 1:29:41 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: F15Eagle

Electronic currency is not safe either. Too much compromising of security by theives who hack databases stealing the access to 25,000 accounts at a time. From anywhere in the world.

If you use an ATM or have a bank card you are at risk. The mere act of HAVING an electronic account puts you at risk. And someone can even open a credit card account in your name and put your credit history at risk.

The government shrugs their shoulders and encourages millions more to steal identities to provide cheap labor pools for certain lobbying industries.


32 posted on 08/11/2008 1:30:46 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: weegee
It has to do in part with the synching code that resembles the bar coding for 6.

I don't know enough about digital storage of photos to know whether it is like bar coding or not. Nevertheless, it isn't putting the mark on their forehead or hand, so it would not seem to apply.

34 posted on 08/11/2008 1:41:44 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: ReformedBeckite
mark of the beast is an allegorical

Just wondering what other parts of the Bible you have decided are allegorical. Jesus' miracles? The virgin birth? Commandments not to murder or fornicate?

38 posted on 08/11/2008 1:56:23 PM PDT by mngran2
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To: F15Eagle

Hackers have hit the ATM databases for the machines you find in gas stations. They collect both pin and card number.

Any remote transaction requires the pin.

And falsified identification can still get a card to someone other than you.

The whole issue of forgery has been passed from government enforcement (against fake paper money) to the shoulders of the individual (who must now dispute the theft and say “it wasn’t me”).


39 posted on 08/11/2008 1:59:04 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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