Posted on 08/10/2008 10:25:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
Preface
I remember reading somewhere that societies in decline reach a point where they are so corrupt that attempted remedies only reveal and further aggravate the causes of their demise. Sometimes I'm tempted to believe that the American Republic has passed well beyond this point, that our liberty is gone and cannot be recovered. The essay that follows is evidence that I have not yet succumbed to this temptation.
I have no doubt, however, that we are in the midst of the feverish crisis that marks either the recovery of the Republic, or its dissolution. The great principles of right and justice that gave rise to our constitutional system of democratic self-government are everywhere discarded or under assault. Indeed, things are so far advanced that the issues most involved with the destruction of these principles (such as so called "marriage" for homosexuals) are being debated and decided with no reference at all to their implications for the moral premises of liberty.
We live in revolutionary times, by which I mean times when a form of government will either be restored or overthrown...
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A perfect analogy for Alan Keyes political career.
That’s ridiculous. There’s nothing in Alan Keyes’ political philosophy that matches your assertions at all. He believes in what the founders of this country called self-evident: that our rights to life, liberty and private property are the unalienable endowment of our Creator, and that just government only exists by the consent of the governed. His every effort is geared towards restoring government of, by and for the people, which is the exact opposite of what you claim.
Have a nice day.
Protecting the unalienable rights of the people shouldn't cramp your style. Unless something in your political philosophy depends on the continuation of the alienation of those rights.
This is why many consider him at best flawed, and at worse, ridiculous, as you applied to me.
If he stuck to what you see him as, there never would be a issue.
But that just isn't the case.
I find it astoundingly insane to help push the runaway train up to 150 (by ensuring all liberals/rats/leftists win), in a misguided attempt to stop it.
I feel sorry for Alan. Clearly the man had some capabilities in a previous era. But he has become laughing stock, a clown, really. And he has sort of a sad life, what with the lesbian daughter and his getting burned by Borat and all that. I feel bad for him, b/c he probably doesn’t have a way to even buy the groceries. I mean, what does he do for a living?
He sort of needs to learn to just lie low, love justice and walk humbly with his God rather than hurting our cause by identifying our principles with his increasingly futile activities. Then again...probably no one pays him any attention, so he doesn’t really hurt our cause. But he sure isn’t helping it.
You expressed my thoughts as well.
So this Keyes thread becomes another attack on those who cannot support the "maverick".
Many of us have made passionate arguments against McCain,but not because we want to push the country over a cliff at 30 or 150 mph. We love our country as much or perhaps more than anyone arguing on the other side of this mess.
We know who and what McCain is, and his populist notions are at the crux of the matter. He is no better, no worse than Obama in the aggregate when you do a prober appraisal, and in the end, no help to problems this country has with it's society at large. It is that society that is pushing hard to go over that cliff and the choices are few.
We can slow the train down only a couple miles per hour, if at all, considering the Dem's will hold the House and Senate, which will give them ammunition to blame Republicans from now until eternity for the predicted results of Democrat mismanagement starting two years ago and proceeding throughout McCain's term or terms.
Or........because he will be such a weak president and likely to lose cohesion during a crisis that is sure to come multiple times it might be best politically to make sure the Democrats take the entire blame, responsibility and weight on their broad political shoulders which will damage them severely and teach the society that elections do have consequences and populism has no place in that decision making..A lesson learned before, but now apparently forgotten by current generations with the exception of mine.
Looking way down the road, I see the latter as the best choice and this is my justification.
I agree...I won’t compromise.
You in the right forum today?
Keyes is nothing but an egotistic attention whore - an irrelevant one at that.
You started with the moronic analogy, so go pound sand and go defend your own indefensible stupidity.
Alan Keyes uses a lot of words to say what I have been saying for years now.
Romans 3:8 (King James Version)
And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.
Romans 6:1-2
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Romans 12:9 NIV .. Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.
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Paul wrote, “Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil” (Rom. 12:9)
You didn't even understand my analogy you idiot! And each time I asked you to explain it, YOU DODGED AND WEASLED OUT, knowing full well how stupid you would look.
You think that McCain will nominate a conservative to the Supreme Court, one that can get through the Democrat controlled approval process? It may be better to take our chances that a judge won’t retire during Carter II’s 4 years then have a conservative elected in a landslide. I’ll maybe vote for McCain but I don’t care much how it goes.
And so the insane stupidity of pushing it up to 150 miles per hour.
Yes he can if we don’t lose ground in the Senate and the House. It is up to us. We say we are conservatives. We have the Energy issue and Security issue and McCain is slowly but surely reclaiming other issues from the Democrats after are wonder GW and his compassionate conservatism sent fiscal responsibility out the window. You should care.
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