Posted on 08/10/2008 10:25:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
Preface
I remember reading somewhere that societies in decline reach a point where they are so corrupt that attempted remedies only reveal and further aggravate the causes of their demise. Sometimes I'm tempted to believe that the American Republic has passed well beyond this point, that our liberty is gone and cannot be recovered. The essay that follows is evidence that I have not yet succumbed to this temptation.
I have no doubt, however, that we are in the midst of the feverish crisis that marks either the recovery of the Republic, or its dissolution. The great principles of right and justice that gave rise to our constitutional system of democratic self-government are everywhere discarded or under assault. Indeed, things are so far advanced that the issues most involved with the destruction of these principles (such as so called "marriage" for homosexuals) are being debated and decided with no reference at all to their implications for the moral premises of liberty.
We live in revolutionary times, by which I mean times when a form of government will either be restored or overthrown...
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A compromise with evil is a necessary evil.
If McCain were the Democrat nominee, would you support him?
Doesn't mean I would support them.
Past electoral success won't make me support John Judas McCain either. That's not how I judge fitness for office.
And it won't stop me from believing that it is folks like you who have adopted an insane position: one that claims that supporting liberals is the way to support or defend conservatism. Talk about "doing the same thing over and over and expecting" different results.
John McCain will continue to do what he has always done; love and honor liberals and spit on conservatives. It's nearly as certain as the sun setting later today.
Meanwhile, EV has taken himself out of the game and has become irrelevant in the 2008 Presidential election.
There can be no doubt that John McCain would.
"I have no doubt that Senator Clinton would make a good president." - John McCain, Meet the Press, Feb. 23, 2005
No problem, support anyone you want, afterall there were people who supported buggy whip manufacturer's after the introduction of the automobile.
I haven't taken myself out of anything. I'm exactly where God wants me to be. And this isn't a game.
No I would not support Clinton if she were the Republican nominee
Huh?! I think you twisted my analogy 180 degrees.
That is about where I stand. Although I know McCain is going to cross the line on many issues, its the best choice.
Unfortunately Alan Keyes lost his relevancy a long time ago, and seems headstrong in making himself even more irrelevant.
Hardly.
Particularly if your line in the sand is crossed by Obama. The only question that is real for me, is do I want Obama and all his minions in control of the White House. That is simply not tenable, and would destroy every conservative principle I hold.
A simple answer for me. No.
Especially after a few more years of the erosion of principle.
That's the thing about erosion: It goes on for a long time, and then the collapse is sudden.
No, I just think your analogy is so wrong it can’t be twisted any more than it already is.
Alan Keyes and his message are inextricably linked. This is a man who has internalized America's principles so deeply that they just flow back out of him like the product of an artesian well. There's no one else in American politics, or politics anywhere for that matter, that I'm aware of like this. No one.
And so, since he holds these principles so closely, in a time when so few do, to consider him irrelevant is an admission that you now consider those principles irrelevant.
Why don’t you explain in clear language what YOU think my analogy is saying.
No, I consider him to be a destructive wackjob. Instead of convincing others of how important his principles are, its one destructive attack after another upon former friends. So in effect, he alienates more people as the years go by, instead of inspiring them. Sad really.
But, more important is the central argument of how to handle this smelly election, right?
The apologists for the compromised leadership of the GOP argue that it is better to go over the cliff at thirty miles an hour than to do it at sixty.
The inanity of that argument is astounding.
But, in any case, we’re now approaching the cliff. Once we hit the edge of it, it won’t matter in the least how fast we were going on approach, or who is driving.
Sad, when there are people who are smart enough not to steer towards a cliff.
Maybe they should simply listen.
Government's of free peoples do not and generally cannot engage in social engineering without losing it's defined freedoms and blowing the entire purpose of freedom to hell. The Authoritarian government is the only type that can accomplish social engineering on a large scale, and they usually fail after a generation.
Keyes can only bring his truths to the reading public, but anything that a candidate and subsequently a elected government can rightfully do with them is to read them as well.
It has always been up to the society at large to determine it's future, and you cannot use government to change it from the conservative point of view, any more then you can from the liberal without severe loss of freedoms.
Therein lies my dispute with Keyes and those of his ilk. Given the chance to do it, they would be just as oppressive as the worst nightmare liberal.
So in other words, you really are not sure what it means but go ahead and mouth off about it. Cute.
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