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Fear for the future - After Schwarzenegger, already-bad business climate may worsen
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 8/10/08 | Editorial

Posted on 08/10/2008 10:19:56 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

A new survey of corporate executives considering relocating their firms provides fresh reasons to worry about California's economy. The Development Counsellors International survey found CEOs ranked California dead-last in attractiveness among the 50 states because of its high taxes and business-hobbling regulations.

California's reputation is likely to grow even worse in the next few weeks when a 2008-09 state budget is finally adopted, given the probability it will raise taxes. But what is truly depressing to contemplate is what happens come January 2011, when Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger departs and is likely to be replaced by a Democrat.

We have griped about Schwarzenegger on several fronts of late. Yet at least he understands that helping business is in everyone's interest, because a healthy economy doesn't just mean good jobs but plenty of revenue for the state government.

This basic truth doesn't register with Democratic lawmakers, who recently passed bills forcing employers to offer acupuncture coverage in their health plans, micromanaging meal times for private employees, increasing regulation of medical assistants and adding new costs to managed-care programs.

Schwarzenegger vetoed all these measures on Aug. 1. Someday soon, we may have a governor inclined to go along with these assaults on business.

So our dead-last ranking among CEOs looks secure. As for state revenue, what's now a persistent headache could soon become a migraine.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnoldlegacy; businessclimate; calbudget; california; fear; future; govwatch; schwarzenegger; worsen
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HOW CEOS RANK STATES

1. Texas

2. North Carolina

3. Georgia

48. Michigan

49. New York

50. California

Source: Development Counsellors International

1 posted on 08/10/2008 10:19:56 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Liberals on $pending steroids will still be running things after aRnie. Oh joy.


2 posted on 08/10/2008 10:21:22 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

There really are two Americas.


3 posted on 08/10/2008 10:22:16 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: NormsRevenge

In the worst case scenario we get Jerry Moonbeam Brown as governor again.


4 posted on 08/10/2008 10:23:10 AM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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To: Argus

Deja Vu .. Moonbeam ,, wow.

what is the half-life of a moonbeam anyway?


5 posted on 08/10/2008 10:24:26 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

California is finished. Entire areas of it are nothing but third-world toilets over-run by and mismanaged by illegals. California used to be paradise, but now it is pretty much just an extension of Mexico; to wit: f***ed up. I was born and raised in California, and I left for good in the late 1970s when I was 28. I saw what was in store for the state then, and decided to get out. I have friends and relatives who have been fkeeing the place in droves over the last few years: They all say it is beyond hope.


6 posted on 08/10/2008 10:36:17 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: NormsRevenge
This basic truth doesn't register with Democratic lawmakers, who recently passed bills forcing employers to offer acupuncture coverage in their health plans, micromanaging meal times for private employees, increasing regulation of medical assistants and adding new costs to managed-care programs.

This is the issue. The Dem legislature.

And, as much as I disrespect Arnie for his liberal facets, I know that if, for example Gavin Newsom ever became governor, he and the legislature would spend and regulate the Golden State into oblivion in a fortnight.

7 posted on 08/10/2008 10:36:41 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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But what is truly depressing to contemplate is what happens come January 2011, when Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger departs and is likely to be replaced by a Democrat.

It can't get worse, in fact it will only get better. Replacing a Republican who governs like a Democrat with a Democrat who governs like a Democrat will allow Republican legislators to unite in opposition and speak out against every hair-brained socialist scheme - which they aren't doing with Arnold now.

8 posted on 08/10/2008 10:38:22 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: NormsRevenge
But what is truly depressing to contemplate is what happens come January 2011, when Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger departs and is likely to be replaced by a Democrat.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha . . . . . . . . Dumbest statement I've read . . . . recently!! In Mexifornia, it makes no difference whether the gov. has an "R" or a "D" after his name - neither type can or will set a budget that the Mexifornians can/will live within. The state legislature is waaaayyyyy out of control pandering to EVERY whack job, minority, special interest group, etc., at the expense of the citizens AND the corporations.

The state's political elites are so busy pandering to illegals and nutjobs across the spectrum, they don't have time to worry about who's minding the store!!! The worst part of this mess is that it will be the taxpayers in the rest of the states who will have to pay off Mexifornia's debt when they finally declare bankruptcy. We didn't make this mess, but we'll have to pay for it.

Thanks, Mexifornia - for NOTHING!!!

9 posted on 08/10/2008 10:39:33 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: ought-six
Entire areas of it are nothing but third-world toilets over-run by and mismanaged by illegals.

Have you visited he normal parts of the state? Outside Los Angeles and San Francisco? Yes, the Arnold and his liberal Democrat allies are doing great damage, but California is still a wonderful, beautiful place to live in most regions. So try and cool the hyperbole please.

10 posted on 08/10/2008 10:40:57 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: ought-six

The same things are happening all across this country.

Is the USA finished?

Is it beyond hope?

If California looked bad enough in the seventies for you to leave, what can you do now?

The US is in worse shape now than California was in the seventies.

Shall we work to save it or leave?


11 posted on 08/10/2008 10:42:52 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: ElkGroveDan
California is still a wonderful, beautiful place to live in most regions

Shhhhh, it's crowded enough here as it is...

:>)

12 posted on 08/10/2008 10:45:17 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: NormsRevenge
CEOs ranked California dead-last in attractiveness among the 50 states because of its high taxes and business-hobbling regulations.

Exactly McCains point, we are loosing jobs overseas because we are taxing and regulating our own jobs out of existance. This is not just a California problem, it is a National problem.

13 posted on 08/10/2008 10:47:35 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Uhhhhh, Duh. Good luck Ca.


14 posted on 08/10/2008 10:50:33 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate tag lines but I don't know how...)
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To: NormsRevenge

Meanwhile, Arizona, Nevada, Idaho and Utah continue to prosper, as former California headquarters relocate there from a wide spectrum of business enterprises. Oregon and Washington State, not so much, as they suffer from earlier stages of the same nanny-state syndrome that has paralyzed California.

“Cascadia” should really break off and become a separate country. But the founding of “Azlatan” may supersede that.


15 posted on 08/10/2008 10:53:21 AM PDT by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: NormsRevenge

They actually call the relocation adversion “ABC” - anywhere but California. We have been strangled by environmental regulations. Each California resources agency is reaching further and further into land use regulation. The Fish and Game is deep into controlling water use and dismantling long held private property rights in water use through regulations for flows for salmon and other fish. The Water Quality folks are reaching into land use to control sediment and temperatiure producing activities that affect salmon habitat.

The very worst is going to be the Global Warming or Climate Change regulations about to come down. In addition to forcing smart growth (infill and concentration of development into cities,) Jerry Brown has a whole new nightmare he is poised to enforce through CEQA - California Environmental Quality Act analysis. At the urging of radical environmentalists, he has demanded that the CEQA analysis on a water bottling plant include not only the impact of the construction of the facility, not only the impact of trucks in the operating of the facility, but the amount of electricity the facility will use and how that effects the utility. He also wants an analysis of the environmental impact of the product itself and how it effects the waste stream and whether people throw plastic bottles in the ocean hundreds of miles away and how that affects marine life. He wants government to judge the societal costs of a product!

This would mean, if a farner builds a hay barn, planning would have to look at the pesticide, fertilizer and gas used to produce the hay and transport it to the buyer dairy. It would also have to look at the emissions of the cows and how their manure was handled. Heck, it might have to look at the human waste and energy streams if they bought the milk. This has got to be a violation of the Interstate Commerce clause.

The California environmentalists have figured out how to regulate every aspect of the stream of commerce. Thie costs in anlysis and bureaucracy are astronomical. In the timber industry, the cost of doing business in California and the time all this anlysis takes is about 100 times what it is in Oregon.


16 posted on 08/10/2008 11:19:20 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: alloysteel
“Cascadia” should really break off and become a separate country.

Hmmm, "Juan De Fuca" is colliding with North America - looks like an omen for McCain pandering to illegals and compromising with the Rats.

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17 posted on 08/10/2008 11:23:08 AM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: DustyMoment
Kalifornia is a microcosm of everything that's wrong with America today. Let the fools wither and die - it would be in the best interests of the other 49 states.


18 posted on 08/10/2008 11:29:22 AM PDT by Viking2002 (Barak Obama is as inept as a bear cub with his dink.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Works for me :)


19 posted on 08/10/2008 11:38:59 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: alloysteel

In our travels, we are struck by the number of X Californian’s we meet. A lot say the same thing..we left because of taxes, schools, property values..low wages etc.
We left because we could live state income tax free elsewhere. We have met some who have a home there, but are residents outside CA. (Tax refugees).
I hope the Feinstein runs as governor. She deserves the problems that are coming with Rats running the place.


20 posted on 08/10/2008 11:57:56 AM PDT by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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