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Boarder Patrol Agent Held At Gunpoint
Associated Press ^ | 8/8/08 | mmp813

Posted on 08/08/2008 10:01:28 AM PDT by mmp813

Once again we are told of an incident in which one of our Boarder Patrol Agents has been placed in a life threatening situation while protecting the boarder between Mexico and the United States. However, let's consider this situation a little differently. Let's consider it, if we can, from the thoughts that might have been going through the mind of our Agent while he was being held at gunpoint by the Mexican military on the American side of the boarder.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; boarderpatrol; bordersecurity; illegal; immigration; incursion; leo; mexico; security; wod
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To: marron

Two Border Agents died within days of each other out of Val Verde County about three years ago...went unreported. Both were graduates of Del Rio High School...years 1970-71...


21 posted on 08/08/2008 11:03:02 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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Sorry, it was driving me crazy.

Sounds like that would be a short drive.

22 posted on 08/08/2008 11:11:52 AM PDT by scooter2 (A taxpayer voting for Barack Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: mmp813

The incursion of foreign troops onto US soil is am act of WAR.


23 posted on 08/08/2008 11:13:10 AM PDT by scooter2 (A taxpayer voting for Barack Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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I disagree. Mexico has found some fun and games with the oil prices. Their Army routinely escorts drug runners across the boarder. Why not make a big deal of forgiving what could have been viewed as an act of war while trying to recruit them as an ally? They are in rough shape and the boarder WILL BE CLOSED once the fence is built sooner or later.

We know what we’re dealing with and we can try to use it to our advantage or further piss them off. They know they are dead to rights on this but the incident should be used to empower our agents and smooth things out with Mexico.


24 posted on 08/08/2008 12:20:15 PM PDT by Bowtie52
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There are plenty of reports of gang violence south of the border. According to this Daily Telegraph Article:
Since January, more than 1,300 people have been killed in execution-style hits or gunned down in fire fights, which often rage for hours in broad daylight and turn residential neighbourhoods into war zones. If the trend continues, 2008 will top last year's toll of 2,500 deaths in drug-related killings.
You don't hear so much about Americans at the Border. Too bad.

Americans are regularly abused. According to this article entitled US Warns Tourists of 'Small-Unit Combat' at Mexico Border -- Murder and kidnapping of Americans has become routine all along the US Mexican border. According to the State Department sometimes heavily armed attackers wear the uniforms of the Mexican police or military.

If there is silence about events at the border. The silence about killings north of the border is deafening. And yet....

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says Think about it. A man or woman killed in Iraq or Iran in the line of duty is a hero. But what is an American killed at home by an illegal alien because the government has failed in its sworn duty to guard the borders. This is a pact between the sovereign and the person has paid taxes and loyalty. The answer is to that question is pretty awful. And it bodes ill for the republic.

But is it true?

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans--but by no means all -- being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Why isn't there an outcry in the black community? Beats me.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. If you check the links you'll notice that its McCain who cites Chertoff. See also here and here Here is more info from Judicial Watch.

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower. Sadly, so many small towns and villages across America have sent their warriors off to war half way across the world only to see communities fill up with illegal aliens.


25 posted on 08/08/2008 12:38:47 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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