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To: Alter Kaker
Cells just seem too clean and orderly to be of naturalistic origin? Guess this can't be natural either:

[Image of Giant's Causeway]

You could have posted a picture of a snowflake or a crystal too, but all of those are not what ID is arguing about. It is not that cells are "orderly" or "clean", but that it is a complex machine that down to the individual molecule does exactly the tasks that are needed and nothing extraneous--compounded by the fact that extraneous functions would likely kill the organism. This is about information and its order-like the difference between randomized bits (or in your case, a repeating pattern of bits) and a well-engineered computer program.

31 posted on 08/08/2008 10:10:04 AM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: dan1123
You could have posted a picture of a snowflake or a crystal too, but all of those are not what ID is arguing about. It is not that cells are "orderly" or "clean", but that it is a complex machine that down to the individual molecule does exactly the tasks that are needed and nothing extraneous--compounded by the fact that extraneous functions would likely kill the organism. This is about information and its order-like the difference between randomized bits (or in your case, a repeating pattern of bits) and a well-engineered computer program.

Actually, that's not true. Cells do not work in a perfect fashion, nor do they do nothing extraneous. If cells did nothing extraneous--if they worked perfectly--we would not age, get diseases like cancer, or die. The amount of non-functional DNA in cells is huge. Cells "make mistakes" all the time: misfolded proteins, mutated DNA, etc. As machines with a supposedly ideal design for our function, we're pretty poorly engineered, when you get right down to it.

46 posted on 08/08/2008 10:45:58 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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