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History Occurs! The "Establishment Media" HIDES! (Live Thread VI)
8/08/08 | Sherri Reese

Posted on 08/08/2008 6:06:46 AM PDT by eeevil conservative

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To: saveliberty

“Not only did they give everything away for no drilling, now PETA and the ACLU get to decide what happens to other people’s property????”

Back in 2006, there were nuts calling for the House to be punished for what the Senate did. Now maybe people can see the difference. FRegards ....


181 posted on 08/08/2008 12:13:33 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("The internet needs a gatekeeper." -- Hillary Rodham [Clinton])
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To: thesearethetimes...

But tatt I think that these guys made this deal before the House Revolt and now they realize that they mucked it all up. And instead of saying, I made a mistake, the American people need to open the coast to offshore drilling, they are messing up even more. Because now they know that we know it’s wrong.


182 posted on 08/08/2008 12:13:51 PM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for the Snow family. Tony was a blessing unto us all. We will miss him.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Back in 2006, the Republicans failed to prepare for the eventuality of Nancy Pelosi to go in hiding. For so many elections, the Democrats would talk crazy talk and blow any lead that they had.

What needs to happen this year is to replay the video of all of the crazy talk. That would include Salazar saying no to drilling even at $10 per gallon. It’s on youtube. These ads make themselves.


183 posted on 08/08/2008 12:15:57 PM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for the Snow family. Tony was a blessing unto us all. We will miss him.)
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To: STARWISE
Speaker Nancy Pelosi took time from her busy book tour — current Amazon sales rank No. 1,631, and priced to sell at $16.29






184 posted on 08/08/2008 12:18:58 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: calex59
So FU and please get off these threads and STFU.You are quite possibly the last person with any authority to tell me where I can post or not. You, like me, are a guest on this forum, here by the suffrance of the administrators. You, like me, are expendable. Remember that.
185 posted on 08/08/2008 12:19:19 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: eeevil conservative

I’m hearing that awful, strident voice on Fox right now...and realizing how much I didn’t miss it while it was quiet.


186 posted on 08/08/2008 12:21:09 PM PDT by Allegra (Goodness me, goodness me, industrial disease...)
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To: saveliberty

Skeptical look here, But! If you are right, are we going to hold our breath waiting for them to do the right thing?

I think this is a LOT like the Illegal Immigration Fiasco, that my 2 ever helpful Senators thought they could spin, and slip by doing something that if folks actually looked closely, would have made them take up arms!! And we did!

Here’s to doing it again.

Tatt


187 posted on 08/08/2008 12:21:48 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said it's prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; All
I just called Lindsey's offices...got a very sweet gal who listened patiently to my rant. Then I ended up leaving a voice mail on the DC line.

Here's my question: Is this a done deal? Does the President have to sign it? Does the House have to approve? If someone has more knowledge on the dealings of Congress, please advise. Thanks. ;)
188 posted on 08/08/2008 12:23:56 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi
Thanks Chambliss!




189 posted on 08/08/2008 12:24:14 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: Girlene

New production on offshore federal lands is left to state legislatures, and then in only four coastal states. The regulatory hurdles are huge. And the bill bars drilling within 50 miles of the coast — putting off limits some of the most productive areas. Alaska’s oil-rich Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is still a no-go.

The highlight is instead $84 billion in tax credits, subsidies and federal handouts for alternative fuels and renewables. The Gang of 10 intends to pay for all this in part by raising taxes on . . . oil companies!

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American Auto Makers beware, most all electronic production happens elsewhere...


190 posted on 08/08/2008 12:29:20 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: Miss Didi

“Is this a done deal? Does the President have to sign it? Does the House have to approve? If someone has more knowledge on the dealings of Congress, please advise. Thanks. ;)”

1) NOT a done deal.

2) Bush would have to sign.

3) House MUST agree

4) (Unasked) What it really does is absolutely da** nothing, since neither Bush or the House would agree and negotiations would take until doomsday or the elections (whichever first occurs). What it does is give the traitorcrats cover just when they need it the most.

My short two-word synopsis:

BULL
SHI#


191 posted on 08/08/2008 12:47:22 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (So now Queen Pelosi really says 3/4 of the voters should go (BLEEP) themselves?)
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To: Miss Didi

When and if it doesn’t pass, Dems can say the gang of 10 crafted a bipartisan bill and the Republicans stonewalled it.


192 posted on 08/08/2008 12:50:25 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Unrepentant VN Vet
Thanks, both, for your explanations. And if the Dems say the Repubs stonewalled it—we would cheer. Right?
193 posted on 08/08/2008 1:04:30 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi

More than 3 Billion barrels of crude!

North Dakota Video;

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=9148615&ch=4226713&src=news


194 posted on 08/08/2008 1:10:48 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: All
I'd warn those low income folks in the North, move South before winter sets in, thanks Senate 10, you own continued high energy prices.
195 posted on 08/08/2008 1:13:39 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: Miss Didi
And if the Dems say the Repubs stonewalled it—we would cheer. Right?

No. It will be spun that a bipartisan energy bill was offered and Americans are suffering because of Republicans.

196 posted on 08/08/2008 1:18:01 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Even if the Repubs were winners, the Drive-Bys and Dems (same deal) would spin it that we are all suffering because of the Repubs. ;)
197 posted on 08/08/2008 1:20:06 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Girlene

Love IT!!!

What the hell is going on with the gang of 10 in the Senate. Always stabbing us in the back.


198 posted on 08/08/2008 1:32:00 PM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("...If it moves, tax it, if it moves faster, regulate it, if it stops, subsidies it.")
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To: fightinbluhen51

Energy Surge
Lessons from an all-American tour.

By John Boehner

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzRjNTIxNWQwNzFkYzk4YTQxYjVjMjgyYzQ4YTJkMmQ=

. First, and perhaps most strikingly, we learned that the Trans-Alaskan Pipeline, which carries petroleum from Prudhoe Bay on the North Slope 800 miles south to Valdez, on the Gulf of Alaska, is in a state of decline. Officials in Alaska warned us that in ten years, if the pipeline continues its current rate of decline in transporting oil supplies, the pipeline will be processing less than 300,000 barrels of oil per day, compared to nearly 720,000 today.

Experts agree that at that level — without adding new supplies of oil — the pipeline could not continue to operate, shutting down all production in the North Slope and turning a multi-billion dollar asset into scrap metal. It’s a “pipeline deadline,” if you will.

The reason the pipeline is in a state of decline is not due to a lack of adequate supply. Rather, it is a combination of lawsuits, time-consuming permitting processes, and the Democratic Congress’ refusal to lead that has slowed the flow of supply out of the North Slope. And nowhere is this more apparent than in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge’s (ANWR) “10-02 Area.” Designated by President Carter and Congress nearly 30 years ago for energy exploration and production, the 10-02 Area’s 2,000 acres (out of ANWR’s 19 million acres) contains some 10 billion barrels of oil, and possibly more, which is currently being held hostage by a Democratic leadership that is shockingly out of touch with the wishes of a large majority of Americans. Their reasoning? More often than not, they claim it is because of the pristine and wildlife-filled lands of ANWR.

That leads into our second lesson. The fact is, my colleagues and I saw plenty of wildlife on our visit to the North Slope. Caribou were abundant. We saw them running atop the permafrost in the National Petroleum Reserve-Alaska (where Democratic leaders suddenly support drilling, by the way), roaming near the pipeline, and one even made its way onto the runway of a small airport near Prudhoe Bay just as we were about to take off for the 10-02 Area. (We were told earlier in the day that caribou have the right of way.) Musk oxen were scattered about. And we even heard that a polar bear wandered onto the Endicott petroleum production facility grounds, which sits on an island in the Arctic, during our tour.

The point is, wildlife and environmentally-safe energy production successfully coexist in the region — and it could elsewhere as well, including in the 10-02 Area. I found the sheer amount of respect energy producers have for the land and for the native Alaskan way of life — of which wildlife is a key part — to be simply remarkable. Moreover, the new technologies energy companies use to reduce the “footprint” on the environment is equally impressive. Those on the Left who cite these companies’ “insensitivity” as a reason for stonewalling more production in the region either suffer from a complete misunderstanding of the issue or are purposely twisting the facts.


199 posted on 08/08/2008 1:36:29 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: thesearethetimes...

Oh. For. Crying. Out. Loud. I’ve been away from the puter for a couple hours and find Chamblis and Isaakson are up to tricks? Here I was being all proud of Tom Price. Now I have to be embarrassed again.


200 posted on 08/08/2008 1:39:29 PM PDT by melissa_in_ga (Duncan Hunter should have been our nominee.)
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