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I almost have to ignore your post, because you brought in a patent falsehood when you said "the opposite of what everyone's been arguing".

I argue for myself and you for yourself. Neither of us can presume to speak for everyone.

The most significant issue is whether Obama is "natural born" -- that is a different thing from "citizenship".

All "natural born" are citizens, but not all citizens are natural born. And by the applicable US Code at Obama's birth, he would not be citizen just because even his mother was a citizen, he would have to have been born in the US. That US Code puts stricter requirements on age of the mother and how long she has been in the US.

Interesting that Obama's own statement on the FightTheSmears website claims he a *citizen* under the 14th Amendment! Yet the 14th Amendment has nothing to do with anything in regard to Obama's situation.

I almost have to ignore your post, because you brought in a patent falsehood when you said "the opposite of what everyone's been arguing".

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Aw, don't go ignoring me. I'm not a "post & flee" type. And I try never to post just to hear myself type or to cause a kerfuffle.

And you're right to caution again using the term "everyone" on freerepublic. There is no everybody here.

That said, I get 100% the difference between "natural born" and "citizenship" (naturalized or other). And the argument you summarize -- whether his mother's age prevent him from being a citizen at birth if born outside the USA -- is the one I said everyone's been arguing.

In my post to you, I was responding to your posting "It doesn't matter where Obama was born, for unless both known parents were US citizens or the father is completely unknown to anyone — he is not “natural born” as that term was used when the Constitution was adopted."

It looked to me as if you were saying it was impossible to be natural born outside the USA unless both parents were citizens. Did you mean impossible as she was too young?