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Trial to Begin in Suit Against Prominent Pastor's Wife
DFW Fox News ^ | Aug 7, 2008 | Juan A. Lozano

Posted on 08/07/2008 6:37:04 AM PDT by tuffydoodle

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To: AppyPappy
Brown wants an apology and punitive damages amounting to 10 percent of Victoria Osteen's net worth as part of her suit.

Yeah.

Brown had previously claimed she was attacked in another incident by an airport employee, according to a deposition she gave in the case.

This woman needs to get her act together.

41 posted on 08/07/2008 8:31:09 AM PDT by xJones
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To: jdub

I find the Osteens about one step above Robert Tilton.


42 posted on 08/07/2008 8:38:09 AM PDT by Xenalyte (~ ~ FREE LAZAMATAZ! ~ ~)
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To: jdub; All
isn't his message one that most here would agree with?

I do not want to cast aspersions on Joel Osteen but the problem I have with him, and the reason I DON'T WATCH HIM, is that he is more of a motviational speaker than a preacher. He refuses to take a stand against abortion, homsexuality and same-sex marriage. I saw that with my own two eyes and heard it with my own two ears on a Tim Russert broadcast about a year ago. He said: "I don't preach against sin; that was for my Dad's day and time". So, no, he DOESN'T PREACH WHAT HIS DAD PREACHED.

On Larry King Live, he refused to say that Jesus Christ was the only way to salvation. That should have "done it" for his Christian following; it did for me.
43 posted on 08/07/2008 8:38:34 AM PDT by no dems ("Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice...." Barry Goldwater)
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To: Snurple

Anyone have a clue how many Blacks are on the Jury. Remember, the stupid, LA prosecutors allowed 9 Blacks to be on O.J.’s jury. The rest is history.


44 posted on 08/07/2008 8:39:53 AM PDT by no dems ("Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice...." Barry Goldwater)
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To: The South Texan

“You have to provide popcorn as a result.”

Extra butter?


45 posted on 08/07/2008 8:40:49 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: am452

See Post #43.


46 posted on 08/07/2008 8:40:49 AM PDT by no dems ("Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice...." Barry Goldwater)
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To: Snurple

I bow to superior search skills!


47 posted on 08/07/2008 8:41:44 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: jdub

Don’t go to his services but if you ever really listed to him, he is about as much an non-preacher as you would ever want to meet and he will tell you so. I have yet to hear him respond to any questions about his stance on political issues and his approach is all about blooming where you are planted,what you can do to make your own life better and personal responsibility. The flight attendant previously sued a gate agent sometime ago because he “didn’t respect her”. She lost. This case should never have gone to court and had it involved a “normal non-spotlight person”, it probably never would have. And yes, lots of us in Houston go to Vail at Christmas. Not everyone who goes there has a lot of money, we just choose how we wish to spend what little we have. If memory serves me correctly, Osteen does not draw a salary from the church and lives in a relatively modest home.


48 posted on 08/07/2008 8:45:48 AM PDT by Grams A
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To: tuffydoodle

I wonder if she’s already cashed in on worker’s comp.


49 posted on 08/07/2008 8:48:28 AM PDT by Chucky is a girlie man
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To: Watershed
My pastor doesn't speak out on such things either. Many Christians and Christian leaders are too passive on these subjects.

I'm not making the case that J. Osteen is, or even should be, held up as a model of Christian leadership...just that he has a positive message.
50 posted on 08/07/2008 8:51:21 AM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: no dems

He refuses to take a stand against abortion, homsexuality and same-sex marriage. I saw that with my own two eyes and heard it with my own two ears on a Tim Russert broadcast about a year ago. He said: “I don’t preach against sin; that was for my Dad’s day and time”. So, no, he DOESN’T PREACH WHAT HIS DAD PREACHED.

On Larry King Live, he refused to say that Jesus Christ was the only way to salvation. That should have “done it” for his Christian following; it did for me.
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True


51 posted on 08/07/2008 8:53:44 AM PDT by cowdog77
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To: cowdog77

Good post.

As an Aussie owner, I love your screenname......


52 posted on 08/07/2008 8:56:25 AM PDT by fishtank (FIRST defeat Imam Mahdi Obama. - THEN resist McCain. -- A good plan.)
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To: TexasCajun

Brown is a black stewardess and from what I have heard she has accused others of something similar..She is after the money plain and simple..


53 posted on 08/07/2008 8:58:13 AM PDT by PLD
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To: cowdog77

Anyone can preach good words and deeds, but to shy away from true Christian doctrine and just smile a lot, he’s not for me.


54 posted on 08/07/2008 8:58:50 AM PDT by Watershed
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To: Watershed
I guess that makes him a "Cafeteria Christian". You take a little of this and a little of that, but you don't touch the things you don't like.

I don't believe the good Lord planned Christianity that way. It's all or nothing at all.

55 posted on 08/07/2008 9:02:56 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: Watershed

Do you know Joel?I do, I have know the family since Joel was a little boy..He is not a shyster he is a true Christian...I do not make it a point to say anything about others worship habits I just pay attention to my own..Joel is a sweet person and he is the real thing..Besides you should know the verse,For where two or three are gathered together unto my name, there am I in the midst of them. ... that they are not alone, for My Father is with them, says Jesus.


56 posted on 08/07/2008 9:10:15 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Gamecock

I think Joel preaches working hard for a payday, not hardly working for a payday.


57 posted on 08/07/2008 9:23:37 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (300 Million People Going Bust Over High Gasoline Prices and Hussein Obama Wants to Hug Trees.)
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To: PLD

Not talking about personality here....
Do you think it’s okay for a Christian pastor, to say same sex marriage or abortion is not the best, or should their attitudes be Bible-based and condemn it?


58 posted on 08/07/2008 9:25:12 AM PDT by Watershed
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To: Snurple

Yup, I got Hemorrhoids............


59 posted on 08/07/2008 9:25:32 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (300 Million People Going Bust Over High Gasoline Prices and Hussein Obama Wants to Hug Trees.)
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To: Watershed
I actually think Joel said he would leave it to God he can't judge or at least I think he meant it that way..You know I don't like abortion or the life style of some others but I can't judge them because I am not God..God loves everyone ,be it someone that has murdered or others that sleep with the same sex..he just gives them the opportunity like he does us to repent of their sins.but I can't say they will go to hell only God knows that..

Here is a portion of the interview he had with Larry King

KING: What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?

OSTEEN: You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know . . .

KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?

OSTEEN: Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong. I believe here’s what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God will judge a person’s heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don’t know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don’t know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I don’t know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus. [Hindus love Jehovah God (Yahweh), and worship Him as Scripture commands? All sincere souls go to heaven? What about Christ’s claim that “no man cometh unto the Father, but by me” (John 14:6)?] http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/osteen/king.htm

60 posted on 08/07/2008 9:50:36 AM PDT by PLD
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