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It Ain’t Over ‘Till The Fat Lady Sings - - And She Just Hired New Songwriters (Hillary 4 Prez?)
Friends and Fiends at Network and in DC | MB26

Posted on 08/07/2008 5:41:15 AM PDT by MindBender26

It Ain’t Over ‘Till The Fat Lady Sings - - And She Just Hired New Songwriters

The Washington – New York news phones lines were buzzing last night and again this morning. The news is considered so volatile two national news producers were telephoned after 11:30 last night for their input. The story? Hillary Clinton is removing her support (such as it was) from Barack Obama and plans for a knock-down floor fight for the nomination at the Democrat Convention in Denver.

The reason for this is simple, she thinks she can win the nomination, and only she can win the General, and so do many top old line Dems.

Support for Obama from the Washington Dem power elite has been all but absent in the last month. The Super Senators, Kennedy, Biden, Dodd, Schumer and others have not been making headlines for Obama. Terry McAuliffe has been all but silent, and “Screamin’ Dean”; who pressed his mute button? The two co-chairs of the national “Our Great-Great-Great Grandfathers were oppressed… so give us money” crusade, Jackson and Sharpton must be on tour in Mongolia, because they haven’t been making headlines for Obama here.

One overriding argument pervades all their thinking, Obama can’t win the National, and Hillary can. The poll results after Obama’s “We Is The World” tour have been a disaster. It provided a dip, rather than a bump for Barack! Pollsters expected him to be at least 12 to 14 points ahead now, and he is even at best. Obama always gets results about 4% less than he polls, so if the election were held today, it would be McCain in monstrous win.

The Obama decline is clearly indicated in one supposed battleground state, Florida. Obama was up until recently. Now Obama is now down 6 among all voters and one reliable unreleased poll has McCain up 8 among the likely voters. On top of it all, Obama is still sinking, and what possible new message to attract voters does he have? When he shouts “We Must Change”, the crowd is thinking, “Oh, he’s changing his position again.”

I was with him in Lakeland last week (on assignment.) The small crowd was NOT pumped at all.

With that in mind, Hillary is warming up the crowds, and the hormones. She has had the Summer off. She is rested. There was plenty of time for charm lessons.

She can go to Denver not officially supporting, but certainly not discouraging, a floor vote movement. Her mantra? “Count Every Vote!”

The upstart’s message would be very clear; “We Want Hillary For President, and She Wants It Too!”

Hillary would never attack Obama publicly, but loudly decry “Those Republicans for Barack’s disastrous slide in the polls.”

Remember, she is only a few votes behind him in the Dem delegate count, has never released her delegates, and the delegates, especially the Superdelegates, can vote for whomever they wish. There is no legal mandate to support the candidate they promised to support back when they were elected in the primaries.”

Who would support Hillary? The list is extensive.

First, old line Dem Labor. They have votes, a “volunteering” machine and money…. and are far from wild about Obama.

Secondly, the Gay vote. They rarely declare WHY they are for a candidate, but they have huge amounts of money, and are madly in love with Hillary (in more ways than one, perhaps?)

The Dem political machine, all the way down to county level. They want coattails.

The Hispanic vote. Hispanics don’t like Obama, (or Blacks in general) very much. Hispanics love Hillary.

The Women. Down deep, the Rev. Wright may be acceptable to the far-left wing of the Dem party but he scares the hell out of middle of the road women. Dems can expect the Republican 527s to pound that Rev. Wright-Obama connection again and again in the General.

Hard-core Feminists. Do we need an explanation here?

Finally, the Black vote! Of course there would be a revolt in the ranks… for about 10 days. But then Jackson and Sharpton would explain that it was necessary because of the all the damage Republicans had done to Obama…. and a Clinton - -Obama ticket is orgasmic for Dems.

Why would Jackson and Sharpton be onboard? Because they have to be, and because they hate Obama. He didn’t “pay his dues in blood in the streets of Selma.” He didn’t “March with Martin.”

Worst of all for them, an Obama in the White House takes away all the “Poor Oppressed Black People Need Government Help… (and our help, personally) rap that has empowered Jackson and Sharpton for decades. Also, Obama is an ACORN man, not Rainbow/PUSH or National Action Network.

Obama would be told, “You cannot win. That’s your fault. Take the VP slot and smile… and be President in eight years, or leave quietly now.”

Bottom line, Hillary reassembles the entire classic Democrat – Liberal coalitions Dems need to win. High-level Dems are not dumb, at least not stupid, at least in the world of down and dirty electoral politics. They will do what they need to do to win.

In the end, the media would love the fight and the Obama supporters would hate it… for a few weeks, then fall in line behind Hillary. They are pragmatists, not racial ideologs. They would do anything to defeat McCain.

Will this happen? Time will tell, but Hillary is certainly, and quietly, pushing it very hard.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008dncconvention; demagogues; democrats; dnc; hillary; obama; operationchaos
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To: TexasRedeye

There’s got to be at least one clinton loyalist lift in big media. What are they waiting for on this birth certificate nonsense. The convention is coming fast.


81 posted on 08/07/2008 7:18:10 AM PDT by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: jveritas
Ok, I think the chances are 60/40 to 70/30 I will lose, but what the hell, it's for FR and JR.

Terms:

Amount: One Hundred Dollars ($100.00)

Deciding factor: Name of Democratic nominee for president at official close of DNC in Denver.

Obama = You win

Clinton - I win (Oh, God! Tough to put "Clinton" and "I win" in same sentence.)

Other person, we both send JR $50!

Loser to donate $100 to FR and provide receipt to winner and post on FR.

Post will not be "I'm not smarter than a 5th grader," but "I lost, (other's name) won, and FR won even bigger!"

Deal?

82 posted on 08/07/2008 7:18:59 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: MindBender26
So she wants to sing?


83 posted on 08/07/2008 7:19:38 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: MindBender26

Deal.


84 posted on 08/07/2008 7:20:20 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: ClaudiusI

>>>> That is one of the most unprofessional articles I have ever read.

You need to get out more.


85 posted on 08/07/2008 7:20:32 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: jveritas

Let the games begin!

(In a practical sense, I hope I lose!)


86 posted on 08/07/2008 7:22:58 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: HIDEK6

Aw, sit man!

Did I axe you?

:)


87 posted on 08/07/2008 7:24:30 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: MindBender26

not gonna happen


88 posted on 08/07/2008 7:25:47 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Jess Kitting
If there is some sort of conspiracy to that effect, please give us the proof, so that we can expose her before it's too late.

The detailed investigation into Obama's forged "Certificate of Live Birth" is being driven by Hillary supporters and is gathering some legs.

It appears there is conclusive proof that the document that is being touted as authentic on his website is in fact a forgery manufactured using his half-sister's certificate.

If this busts out and is proven to be true, Obama will become fatally flawed -not only because there are possible eligibility issues, but because he will be shown to have participated in the forgery of a Government document to conceal his identity, and to have lied extensively to the American people about his upbringing and his religious affiliations.

Hillary's supporters appear to be working had on this as we speak.

89 posted on 08/07/2008 7:29:42 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: Paleo Conservative
Oh, you're bad!

I had to look at the file name of that pic before I got your message...

90 posted on 08/07/2008 7:30:40 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: MindBender26

Getting a lot of popcorn and a case of beer for the dem convention. This is going to be fun.


91 posted on 08/07/2008 7:43:30 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: MindBender26

If you be whack, I says you whack.

Werd.


92 posted on 08/07/2008 7:45:06 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: HIDEK6

No whut ahm say’n?


93 posted on 08/07/2008 7:45:47 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: kabar
"This sounds like a power play to get the VP slot for Hillary and/or to pay off her campaign debts."

Word is he promised her VP and to pay off her debts when they met at Feinstein's, supposedly. They actually met at Eric Holder's, according to some sources. He has reneged on both and this is a reminder that she will cause all kinds of trouble including torpedoing his chances if he doesn't pay up.

94 posted on 08/07/2008 7:49:30 AM PDT by penowa
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To: Dixie Yooper; wequalswinner
East to bet Black voters in line. It would have to be managed very carefully, but can't you see Jessie on TV closing night at the convention......

“Once again, the American Power Structure, the same people who kept Martin down, who kept Malcolm down, they have spread lies and rumors all summer and kept yet another great Black man down.

We may not see why this is necessary.... but if Barack... and Michelle... if Barack and Michelle can see it... then perhaps we all should pray that our eyes are opened to reality, as theirs have been.

We did not want this... we all worked, prayed and hoped for a different outcome, but until we finally elect a President like Hillary Clinton, who will destroy the horrible Klan-like, old, oppressive, race-based, race-baiting power cabals, the ones who conspired to deprive Barack of the nomination, we must be realists and understand that the nomination of Barack Obama for Vice President is a huge, almost unimaginable step forward for all People of Color.

We wanted more. We wanted the gold ring. We just missed it... but rejoice in what we did get!

So my friends, It may not be this time.... but it will be sometime... it will be in our lifetimes.... we will all walk in the sunshine... in our time.

It may not be this man.... this time... but it will be our man... in our time.... and as People of Color have heard for a hundreds of years... that time will be soon.

Despair not... for soon.... after 8 great years of the Clinton-Obama team, the Obama-Clinton team, we will be so far advanced that America will nominate this man.... all America will nominate this man... and All People will all walk in the path of full enlightenment and pleasure.

Finally tonight. I know for some of you, the pain is deep... For all People of Color, the pain has been deep all our lives.

But tonight I promise you this. Tonight, in prayer, as I do every night, I will speaking with Dr. King. And I will tell him, “Martin, I was there when you were crucified... and I was there tonight when everyone committed their bodies and blood to work together to elect this woman and this man to their offices. Martin, this I pledge to you! Martin... and Coretta... Work with us in spirit, because, with you.... and Hillary... and Barack.... we will win!”

Thank you.... On to victory!!!! “

95 posted on 08/07/2008 7:52:54 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: MindBender26

East to bet = Easy to get


96 posted on 08/07/2008 7:56:56 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: Izzy Dunne; Paleo Conservative
Thanks for the hint, Izzy. I didn't think to look at the properties and I wasn't getting it!

Yep, you're a naughty conservative, Paleo!

p.s. Looks like FNC is picking up on the "Hillary might not be done" story....just sayin'

97 posted on 08/07/2008 8:20:53 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (A good man has come home to San Diego! Thank you Congressman Hunter)
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To: MindBender26

B.O. is a flop. Only the Hildebeast can win the election. Spread the word.


98 posted on 08/07/2008 8:28:30 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: MindBender26
"...but can't you see Jessie on TV closing night at the convention..."

You forgot the part about Jesse telling America how the GOP made him say he wanted to cut Obama's nuts off.

(otherwise...yeah, I think you pretty much nailed Jesse's DNC speech if Hillary were to swipe it. It made me sick reading it, which is what a real Jesse speech would do, so I think you're close, very close. Nice work.)

99 posted on 08/07/2008 8:45:31 AM PDT by smedley64 (UHbUHmUH- The incoherent candidate.)
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To: B Knotts
"There would have to be some plausible excuse for dumping Obama..

Think maybe falling ten or so points back in the polls might do it?

McLame and Obummer are neck and neck right now, that's a slide in itself and I absolutely believe the polls can knock off a few more points (from either) with only minor effort.
Interesting to see which direction it goes - of if we go into conventions at 50/50.

(As to Obie and Heinous running as a ticket, remember that Kennedy and Johnson loathed each other but joined up. Didn't work too well for either one in the end.)

100 posted on 08/07/2008 8:48:20 AM PDT by norton
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