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Could Obama still lose the nomination? (Maybe!)
American Thinker ^ | August 07, 2008 | Denis Keohane

Posted on 08/07/2008 1:12:17 AM PDT by neverdem

Will Hillary outsmart Obama and take the nomination at the last minute?

Many of us familiar with Hillary Clinton's approach to achieving her goals refused to believe that she ever gave up all hope of winning the nomination and the presidency. Her words and actions on the subject of the convention itself always left the door open for a return, should Obama falter or suffer some calamity. 

Her artful evasions were enough to lull journalists and (more importantly) Obama and his supporters into the presumption of inevitability. No further rumblings of a mass protest in Denver should the first black candidate be denied his rightful due were heard. After all, he received enough publicly expressed support from super delegates to put him over the top. And he won the popular vote in the primaries, we were assured, lending legitimacy to the super delegates who voiced their support.

Everyone presumed the presumptive nominee was a lock.

Now there are a few signs that Hillary may be making her move.

 - Blogger Patterico alludes to the Hillary Clinton campaign burning up the phone lines to the super delegates.

 - Bill Clinton told ABC News, "I am not a racist" and contended the race card was played against him. Even when prompted in the same interview to state that Obama was ready for the Presidency, he did not deliver.

 - Hillary's PUMA ( short for "Party Unity My A--.") supporters in Denver and nationally plan a rally at a Denver park during the convention.

 - ABC news reported yesterday that Hillary Clinton does not rule out putting her name in nomination,contradicting earlier press reports.

Many people, including no doubt a goodly number of nervous Democrat super delegates, are asking themselves the David Brooks' question about Obama's standing in the polls: "Where's the landslide  ?" After evaluating him for several months, voters in the middle still aren't ready to embrace him.

National polls show not only a tightening of the Obama-McCain race to a statistical dead heat but momentum toward a McCain lead, something inconceivable only weeks ago. The specter of an Obama collapse has to haunt more than a few super delegates.

Buyer's remorse seemed evident and growing among many Democrats toward the end of their primary season when Obama lost again and again to Clinton, even as the delegate math was by then stacked in his favor. That remorse was put on hold (but apparently not resolved) by Obama's seeming to secure the nomination and the subsequent popular boost he enjoyed at first. But lately the candidate with a difference has had a hard time living up to his promise to be a new kind of politician.

According to RealClearPoliticsObama has 1766.5 pledged delegates, 352 short of the 2118 needed to secure the nomination. He also has 463 super delegates, which puts him over the top -- if they hold. If a combination of Clinton campaigning and nervousness can cause a hundred and twenty or so super delegates to sit out the first ballot, Obama does not get the nomination on the first ballot and perhaps not at all. After that first vote a great many pledged delegates and all the super delegates are free to vote as they choose.

How much pressure could there then be for the forty-seven year old Obama to take the VP spot under Hillary, with the understanding that he would as such be the next Democrat in line for the top nomination whether Hillary won or lost, served one, two or no terms?

It looks like Obama's belief in his inevitability may have led him into a blunder, making it easier for Hillary supporters to prevent a nomination on the first ballot. After that point, anything goes, as all super delegates and many pledged delegates are free to vote their preferences.

After accepting the party's decision last June to seat the delegates from Michigan and Florida but with half votes, only days ago Obama said he wanted the delegates to have full votes

Obviously, he said this believing he has won the nomination and that pandering to voters in critical general election states is of more importance.

If the party goes along with Obama's request, it reduces the number of super delegates who would need to sit out the first ballot for Obama to be denied the nomination, opening the way for Clinton! Ouch!

This is proof that the man should not be negotiating with Ahmadinejad. If he cannot think strategically and recognize his vulnerability to a last minute ambush at the convention, he would be eaten alive in big league world affairs.

Worst of all, in his letter to the Credentials Committee arguing in favor of full votes for the two delegations, he writes:

Democrats in Florida and Michigan must know that they are full partners and colleagues in our historic mission to reshape Washington and lead our country in a new direction.

These words tacitly argue for acceptance of the popular vote results in those states. Obama cannot see one step ahead, for adding them to the vote count would give the Democratic primary season popular vote majority to Hillary.

There are about three weeks to the delegate voting. Things can still happen or even, as sometimes suspected with the Clintons, be made to happen.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; demprimary; hillary; obama; operationchaos; superdelegates
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To: Drumbo

Geez. And ugh! It does make sense Drumbo. And I don’t like it either! LOL


41 posted on 08/07/2008 5:45:50 AM PDT by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/peoples-information-support-team/ -JOIN US!-We're PIST!)
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To: gridlock

They want to win, but can they win if they anger the Obama supporters? I doubt it. They would have to feel an Obama win was hopeless before they went with plan B - which would be a “Hail Mary.”


42 posted on 08/07/2008 6:37:29 AM PDT by Homer1
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To: Drumbo
I would never be surprised at anything the Clintons would pull to get back into power!

NEVER COUNT HILLARY OUT!

I have been wondering about this and we DO know what she's capable of.

VIDEO PROOF

43 posted on 08/07/2008 7:22:25 AM PDT by luvie (Obama=Change: HIGHER taxes, MORE entitlements, FEWER freedoms, LESS oil for America!!)
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To: Drumbo

....and it’s a VERY scary scenario! ~~shiver~~


44 posted on 08/07/2008 7:27:17 AM PDT by luvie (Obama=Change: HIGHER taxes, MORE entitlements, FEWER freedoms, LESS oil for America!!)
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To: Drumbo

Re: “Set-up from the start...”

In the beginning of this campaign charade, and due my observation the Dems have melded Hollywood techniques de Choreography into their strategy decades ago, amongst other devices of deception I too thought perhaps Obama was on a “getting to know you” expedition for a future coupling with the “Hildabeech” as the VP offering. Within months I dropped that scenario cold. He blindsided her. Wasn’t part of the plan.

It isn’t today either.

Wild Bill has been around the World as though still POTUS negotiating high level business deals. As most of these “deals” seem to require investment by potential business partners into the Clinton Library for use of his time and efforts, one might be inclined to believe promises have been made for that day in which he, through Hillary returns to that awsome position that has been, and will again be manipulated for his and her unscrupulous profiteering. IOW the Clinton’s are desperate to return to the WH to keep those promises made.

Clinton’s have no loyalty to the United States, her Constitution, the people that comprise the Nation. Only to themselves and for their own benefit have they built their machine. It’s a machine that runs on high-grade Bullscoot.

The Clinton’s are the epitome of the meaning of Con-Artists. America is their target.

In favor of brevity, I pose simply that IMO the Clinton’s WILL be back. They don’t give a damn about riots or not. Their only care is to return to the POWER that they can once again manipulate to their benefit.

The results of the Democrats Bru-ha-ha this month in Denver will tell us all what direction WE need to concentrate efforts prior to November. Regardless we must focus on Congress. Take it back.


45 posted on 08/07/2008 7:27:51 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Say Obama were "Pinky", Then who is "The Brain"?)
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To: LUV W

Isn’t going to happen.

Blacks would riot.

They want the first Black President.

Even Conservative blacks are considering voting for Obama because they want to see the first black President.

It’s silly I know


46 posted on 08/07/2008 7:31:22 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (It is over. Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: LUV W

Isn’t going to happen.

Blacks would riot.

They want the first Black President.

Even Conservative blacks are considering voting for Obama because they want to see the first black President.

It’s silly I know


47 posted on 08/07/2008 7:31:23 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (It is over. Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

It’s sllly and it’s the “jackass” in the living room—that
this election isn’t about race. It’s ALL about race! Couldn’t
be otherwise with that face plastered all over the media!

I just wish it was Condi’s face! :D

If wishes were ponies......


48 posted on 08/07/2008 7:34:00 AM PDT by luvie (Obama=Change: HIGHER taxes, MORE entitlements, FEWER freedoms, LESS oil for America!!)
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To: LUV W
PUMA: Party Unity My A...

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49 posted on 08/07/2008 7:34:00 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

LOL!

The Clintons have NEVER been about unity...they are all about
THEM...period!

Better start praying now!


50 posted on 08/07/2008 7:36:41 AM PDT by luvie (Obama=Change: HIGHER taxes, MORE entitlements, FEWER freedoms, LESS oil for America!!)
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To: Drumbo
In my nightmares, Hillary steps forward to take her destiny, Obama admits he's inexperienced with only 120 days in the Senate (while spiraling in the polls) and the press will eat it up.

That's not a nightmare, that's way, way too much LSD.
Relax.

51 posted on 08/07/2008 7:38:58 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Related: It Ain’t Over ‘Till The Fat Lady Sings - - And She Just Hired New Songwriters (Hillary 4 Prez?)
52 posted on 08/07/2008 9:04:31 AM PDT by Drumbo ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats." - Jubal Harshaw (Robert A. Heinlein))
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To: Drumbo

She’s just tunin’ up for the fight! And she intends to win...
so we’d better hang on for dear life—it’s gonna be a bumpy
ride to the presidency this time! Hanging chads will be a
dim memory of “better” times! LOL!


53 posted on 08/07/2008 9:07:48 AM PDT by luvie (Obama=Change: HIGHER taxes, MORE entitlements, FEWER freedoms, LESS oil for America!!)
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To: LUV W; All
And again: Hillary Clinton May Allow Her Name to Be Placed in Nomination at the Democratic Convention - Video
54 posted on 08/07/2008 9:20:13 AM PDT by Drumbo ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats." - Jubal Harshaw (Robert A. Heinlein))
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To: neverdem
This is power politics - nothing's free. What can he offer that would be sufficient to get her to back off and pacify her base as well? I keep coming back to the Vice Presidency even though all The Experts say that's not happening. We've already had a couple of female Secretaries of State. Supreme Court nomination? She'd have to get confirmed and I don't see that happening.

But anything's possible. I'm going to be overdosed on popcorn by the time the election rolls around.

55 posted on 08/07/2008 9:29:22 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Drumbo

Good analysis and very believeable. Rush talking about this today.

Everyone forgets that Obama is just the “presumptive” nominee.


56 posted on 08/07/2008 9:35:03 AM PDT by tips up
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To: freema

Thanks for the link.


57 posted on 08/07/2008 2:21:18 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: Drumbo

But, if this was a set-up from the start...<<<

I suspect that it has worked....

They managed to get all the other Republicans and leave us with a weak candidate, now the dems will pull out the big guns, even to switching candidates....LOL - my opinion.


58 posted on 08/07/2008 5:26:57 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: Drumbo

Bump.


59 posted on 08/07/2008 5:30:32 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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60 posted on 08/07/2008 8:20:45 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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