Posted on 08/06/2008 7:33:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
One thing that hasn't received much attention in conservative and Republicans circles is the ongoing conversation on the left about the possibility of Nuremberg-style war-crimes trials for members of the Bush administration should a Democratic president take office. I'm not exaggerating or introducing the Nazi analogy myself; they actually use the phrase "Nuremberg-style" when they discuss "war-crimes tribunals." And they are quite serious (although the more moderate of them prefer a "truth commission.")
At the Netroots Nation gathering in Austin, Texas last month that is the successor to YearlyKos Dahlia Lithwick, of the Washington-Post-owned website Slate, did an interview with the Talking Points Memo site in which she described a panel discussion she had just taken part in on what is known as the "first 100 days of accountability." Among Lithwick's observations:
We're already falling into this trap of either positing Nuremberg-style war crimes tribunals, or nothing, immunizing everyone from John Yoo up and down but everybody says there's a lot of gray area in between that, and that accountability doesn't necessarily mean Nuremberg, it doesn't necessarily mean nothing, it means possibly a truth commission, possibly appointing a special prosecutor to look at it
Lithwick recommended a massive retrospective investigation of the Bush administration, going through every piece of paper, before moving forward:
Certainly long before we make a decision to do what Stuart Taylor suggested this week, which was immunize everybody in advance, or alternatively make a decision to trot them out before a war crimes tribunal before the whole world, we should really find out what happened
But Lithwick recognized that there are those who argue such an action might be divisive:
We talked a lot about this notion that it's bad for America, that it will rip America apart if we have hearings or we have criminal trials or if we have war crimes tribunals. And I think it's really worse for America if we don't
I think the thing to emphasize here is that this is a serious conversation going on among people who might have influential voices or play influential roles in an Obama administration. Many of them want to put John Yoo a special favorite of theirs on trial, whether before a Nuremberg-style tribunal, a criminal court, or a truth commission with as-yet unspecified powers. And, of course, they wouldn't stop with Yoo; if they had their way, they would likely have a long list of former Bush administration officials to put in the dock. They are serious.
To them, Bin Laden and his ilk are an abstraction. However, Bush and the Republicans are evil.
This is what extremism does to people: it leads to self-righteousness and anger, and of course, hate.
They are not thinking of the good of the country, they are only thinking of themselves.
Remember, these people do not understand that if elected, they have to govern the whole country. They don't care about the Republican half of the country.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
paging Henry Bowman...
A Truth commission???? That is a laugh. congress couldn’t find the truth if it was choking them.
But they could very well come up with a good story. anyone who disagrees will be arrested under provisions of the Patriot Act. Civil disobedience will be squashed as well. All participants will be branded as insurgents and arrested.
Am I making this up?
No.
We have some power hungry elitist DemoRats/socialists who will do everything to bring us down into compliance. they will have the cops, the military, and the FBI at their discression to do their bidding.
America is on the brink of a communist coup. All it will take is one Obama gaining the presidency, and Dingy Harry and Nazi Pelousey already have their script in place.
I agree with another poster to stock up on ammo.
But how many people will actually leave their comfort zone to fight if the need be? Or will a revolt crumble after being denigraded to a terrorist group and slain on the front page of the New York Times?
Talk is cheap. There are very few who will risk everything to fight for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
When they take down Free Republic and block communication between like minded people, it will be every man and woman for themselves.
It isn't happening. If it did it would be on the basis of such flimsy, trumped-up charges that absolutely nobody, including the ones making them, would be safe. It would be a throwback to Stalin's show trials. And it would cost the Dems both houses of Congress and the Presidency for decades to come.
There is another route, however, far safer for the moonbats pushing for trials, and I do foresee them pushing it. That is for Obama to sign an agreement placing the United States under the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court and allowing that body to indict various U.S. citizens, not Bush himself right away but certainly that high if it appears they'll get away with it. The rules of evidence for that court are, to say the least, not those of any court under the Constitution.
That sort of power play is an internationalist's wet dream, and some of them are willing to risk a civil war - I'm honestly not exaggerating here - in order to try it. Fortunately these seem fringe players at the moment. Were it ever otherwise things could get very nasty very fast.
Communist Show trials is what they want, because that’s what the Left are: Communist bestial death freaks.
There’s a poll question for ya: Who will Obama, Pelosi, and Reid appoint as their “Robespierre”?
AP Lies about Obama’s Red Mentor
GOP USA
Posted on 08/06/2008 5:08:58 PM PDT by NoobRep
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2057729/posts
immunizing everyone from John Yoo up and down
John Who?
He use to be the Hall of Fame Quarterback for the Baltimore Colts . . . he’s dead so I guess the libs would consider him a reliable witness.
Let these leftist clowns even try this play. There will be blood in the streets.
John Yoo is a law professor at Boalt Hall, UC Berkeley, who is accused of writing memos justifying “torture” on behalf of the Bush Administration. That’s why they’re after him.
True transcript of a discussion with my wife:
Brad: What do you have in all those bins, boxes, totes, in the basement?
(Pause)
Wife: What are you saving all of those glass jars for?
Brad: To fill with gasoline and throw at tanks, of course
Wife: Well I am saving for a rainy day, too
I knew that. :) But I did have to look it up. It' not a name that's on the minds of very many Americans. Which was my point.
Most Americans fully support doing way more than mere water boarding to extract information from terrorists.
It would be a throwback to Stalin alright. But that's what many of these people are, would be Stalinsts. If they get full control of both houses of Congress and the Presidency, what makes you think they'd give it up in anything resembling a "free" election.
Stalin did say:
"It does not matter who votes that counts; it is who counts the votes."
Just imagine if the democrats sent the Bush administration to the UN’s World Court? It would seem ‘right and proper’ to the drive-by media and many ‘justices’ as well. When one party can throw the other in jail, freedom is lost.
“This is scary.”
The percentage of our nation that supports this kind of madness is far too high.
These moonbats want an American version of Winnie Mandela’s “Truth and Reconciliation Commission” in South Africa. The guilty will, of course, immediately be dragged out into the middle of the Capitol steps and be necklaced with flaming gas-soaked tires. (But don’t worry, they’ll buy carbon credits so the executions will be carbon-neutral.)
}:-)4
Bump.
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