Posted on 08/05/2008 10:23:29 PM PDT by mdefranc
Independent analysts, working separately, claim to have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.
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I would. "Search" went extinct a few years ago.
Where is Maya? Of course, her name means 'illusion' so just maybe that is the point here. Could 'she' have been born in Hawaii and her brother born in Indonesia? There is a magic act here somewhere. . .if perhaps, only in the entire story. . .surely what is to come of this; should be here by now.
That said, there does appear to be an issue here. . .
My thoughts exactly.
The RATS never intended to nominate o’bama to anything.
I don’t think the explanation for Maya’s Hawaiian birth certificate is all that complex.
Ann Dunham faced a problem. Because her husband, and Maya’s father, is Indonesian, and Maya was born in Indonesia, she would have acquired her father’s nationality by birth under Indonesian Law. Just as, in my own case, my son, born in Jakarta in 1977 was and is a United States Citizen under Indonesian law because he inherited my ctizenship, not his mothers.
But here she was, with a child not clearly an American Citizen, and she wanted to go beck to Hawaii. How to do this?
Simple. Report the home birth of a female child. There might be some restrictions on when this has to be done, and this could be why the birth year for Maya is variously reported as 1970 or 1971. She might have been born in Indonesia in 1970 and “born” again at home in Hawaii in 1971.
Then armed with this Hawaiian birth certificate, Ms. Dunham/Soetoro would have had no problem returning to Hawaii with Maya in tow as an American Citizen by birth, no questions asked, except maybe “My, isn’t she big for her age?”
Maya made a big mistake when she volunteered this COLB to her bro for modification if that’s what she did.
There are numerous crimes in evidence here, some committed by the now deceases Ms. Dunham, but others by presently living persons.
It is a crime, let us not forget, to alter official documents to further a fraud.
She was born again!
I’ve seen discussions about it being a calculated strategy by the Clintoons, who are setting up Obama for a fall at convention. They can’t be seen as connected to this, so they’ve got surrogates pushing this investigation.
The document experts working on this seem to be Clinton supporters. Israeli Insider offered a trip to Las Vegas to anyone who independently confirmed his analysis. Another expert confirmed Maya’s COLB, and then requested the value of the Las Vegas trip be donated to retire Hillary’s debt, which was agreed to.
It might be timed to hit the MSM around convention time. Then Hillary can gracefully un-suspend her campaign and be the Dim’s saviour without losing (she thinks) the Obama supporters.
I’m not fond of conspiracy theories, but this is a simple explanation that connects a lot of dots. As the saying goes, never underestimate the Clintons.
Do you remember Michelle saying months ago in an interview something like, "We never expected him to do this well"?
That really stood out to me. He was just starting to really make a gain in the primaries; it was just Hillary and him....not sure exactly when. It made me think that all he was supposed to do was make a good showing against Hillary and be ready for 2012 or 2016. If that was the intention, oops.
Not a chance.
Why anyone would believe any of Obama's "biography" is beyond me.
2. It is not a crime to be a liar, a socialist, a communist or even a Muslim in America.
3. It is amazing how many Freepers are dismissing #1 and and saying we should only focus on Obama's other faults as listed in #2.
4. So lets do both! Document Obama the Oreo, is a fraud, who has allowed criminal actions to happen to facilitate his fraud while being a liar, a socialist, a communist, a Muslim and a freaking elite idiot when it comes gas prices and our economy.
We can walk and chew gum at the same time. Ignoring his crimes to strictly focus on issues is insane.
I like Oreos...
Absolutely!
Who came up with this bs insanity of not focusing on the issues and this apparent fraud?
Freepers can check my posts and replies and yours and see that we are addressing the issues as well as this probable criminal act of fraud.
“The RATS never intended to nominate obama to anything.”
Not in this year and campaign.
$inator $hrill’s arrogance and Obama’s smooth talk took her out of the race when the mediots abandoned her and got in bed with Obama, their favorite Oreo.
Years ago a friend, who was in a really mixed marriage, he was a rock hard conservative and his wife was an elite artsy democrat with parents bigtime in Rat politics, said the same thing about Clintoon. They just wanted Clintoon to have a good showing to run him the next time. The PerotRat combo gave Clintoon the election.
So we may have history repeating itself if we don’t derail the magical Oreo.
I like the Oreos made by Nabisco, not the one made by the DNC.
Naah, you ain't Black! You be the Oreo Woosie with some big ugly flip flops!
The evidence here, uncovered by independent sources using the same methodology, is overwhelming. Layers upon layers of fraud have been exposed. The formatting. The border. The father’s race. The “there it is, no it isn’t” seal dispute. We’ve seen these stories exposed, and ignored by the press, for months.
And now, with two sources claiming they’ve discovered that a birth certificate for Maya Kassandra Soetoro was used as a template for this (when Maya herself was born in Indonesia, exposing yet ANOTHER level of fraud), there can be no doubt that the Obama campaign has presented a fake, illegal, fraudulant document that might even have been produced without Maya’s permission.
Why, why, why, is this not being reported in the media? At this point, I would say there aren’t even doubts about it anymore. But even if there were - aren’t serious concerns about the validity enough to get a peep out of the media? This has to come out at some point.
That's a bit open ended, don't you think? If you are willing to believe anything at all, you might even believe his was a virgin birth. But whatever kind of birth it was, and that means almost certainly an illegitimate one, it was almost certainly in Hawaii.
Maya, on the other hand was born in Indonesia without any doubt whatsoever, and unlike her brother, she was certainly born within wedlock
Why anyone would believe any of Obama's "biography" is beyond me.
Why indeed? I wouldn't. Hell, I wouldn't even bother reading such a thing. It certainly would play no role whatsoever in what I think or what I know or believe with good reason to be true.
The sad thing is, that if he said he was born in a manger, there are those that would believe him.
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