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To: conservativegramma
Until Obama produces an authentic COLB, and explains why he's produced a 'forgery', there isn't any real evidence he was born IN Hawaii either

If what was posted online was a forgery or was legitimately questionable, we would have heard from the Hawaii government. There is simply no way that a forgery would have been floating around for weeks like this without someone in the Hawaiian government speaking up about it.

Heck, the media might love Obama, but your average reporter would give his firstborn to be the one to break a story that would disqualify a Presidential candidate from running.

Simply put, pulling off a fraud like this tests the bounds of reality. There are too many people, from reporters, the Hillary campaign, to the McCain campaign, that would love nothing more than to get Obama out of the race. If those people, with many more resources available to them than the posters on a website, haven't found the smoking gun evidence, it most likely doesn't exist.

84 posted on 08/05/2008 7:53:04 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: Citizen Blade
If what was posted online was a forgery or was legitimately questionable, we would have heard from the Hawaii government. There is simply no way that a forgery would have been floating around for weeks like this without someone in the Hawaiian government speaking up about it.

Wouldn't that be a violation of BHO's privacy rights at this point?

91 posted on 08/05/2008 7:57:01 AM PDT by Heartland Mom (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: Citizen Blade
but your average reporter would give his firstborn to be the one to break a story that would disqualify a Presidential candidate from running.

Reporters like the ones who ignored the Lewinsky case?

Reporters like the ones who ignored the Edwards case?

Reporters like the ones who ignored the Ron Brown case?

Reporters like the ones who ignored the Fort Marcy Park case?

Reporters like the ones who ... << insert your example here >>?

There are reporters who would follow this up, and I predict that when this story gains legs they will do so. But those reporters will not be members of the US MSM. IMO they will be Germans or British or something.

117 posted on 08/05/2008 8:08:57 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Citizen Blade

According to Judah, he has spoken with a Hawaii tech person in the Hawaii government (would have to research to get exactly) and he said “There is no way this came from us”. Now we can’t compare with uneducated eyes, these are people who study computers and what they can do for a living.


122 posted on 08/05/2008 8:10:51 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Citizen Blade
Maybe, but I think the average reporter is both intellectually & physically lazy!
His professional & political instincts are to follow the crowd, particularly if the crowd is made up of the right “people”. These are the “beautiful people” who are the “popular opinion” makers(e.g. the “glitteratti” & the “political Illuminati”.) They are not & I repeat not Republicans, conservatives or any such troglodytes!
So if Obama does have constitutional qualification problems, it would not surprise that the ladies & gentlemen of the press are disinterested. In fact as I have said previously in this forum, the press's first reaction will be to try and “explain it away” as a “mere technicality” and a “relic of our racist past”. I also think that no one will have the cajones to do anything about it. The question will remain, “will it matter to the American electorate come election day?”.
129 posted on 08/05/2008 8:13:28 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Citizen Blade
Simply put, pulling off a fraud like this tests the bounds of reality.

Really? Would it have been testing the bounds of reality for a sitting president to authorize the break-in of the Democrat headquarters for information on campaign strategic plans during an election?

What's worse, a sitting president (and candidate for a second term) breaking into opponent headquarters, or a presidential candidate forging qualifying documentation?

-PJ

276 posted on 08/05/2008 11:01:32 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Obama's "citizen of the world" is the 2008 version of Kerry's "global test.")
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To: Citizen Blade
If what was posted online was a forgery or was legitimately questionable, we would have heard from the Hawaii government. There is simply no way that a forgery would have been floating around for weeks like this without someone in the Hawaiian government speaking up about it.

The media reports, you decide. (from  the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, July 14, 2008):

"Cutting-edge ventures in vital statistics have taken Alvin Onaka (chief of the state Health Department's Office of Health Status Monitoring) to the heady reaches of Washington politics.

Most recently he has been at the forefront of the controversy over Barack Obama's birth certificate. To battle a spate of unsubstantiated rumors, including one that Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen, the Obama campaign launched a Web site called "Fight the Smears." It shows a copy of his Hawaii birth certificate.

Onaka said he has had many calls asking him to confirm Obama's birth certificate, but he cannot disclose such information: "Only Obama can consent to that." 

389 posted on 08/05/2008 5:08:05 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: Citizen Blade
Simply put, pulling off a fraud like this tests the bounds of reality.

That's what I thought too. When the issue of the birth certificate first came up, I read a few of the articles posted here and decided it was a waste of time. It's been months since I've clicked on an Obama birth certificate thread. Then, yesterday, on a whim I looked at the Texas Darlin blog and saw TechDude's latest post -- and I have to say, I think there might be something to this.

395 posted on 08/05/2008 5:15:31 PM PDT by Yardstick
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