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Daley hints he may drop fight to keep handgun ban
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | August 2, 2008 | FRAN SPIELMAN

Posted on 08/04/2008 11:13:58 AM PDT by neverdem

City Hall Reporter/fspielman@suntimes.com

Mayor Daley on Friday cracked the door open to abandoning the costly fight to uphold Chicago's 1982 handgun freeze -- if he can fashion a replacement ordinance that protects the safety of first-responders.

Until now, Daley had promised to defend Chicago's ordinance all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, despite what he called the dangerous precedent set by the court.

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On June 26, the Supreme Court overturned a Washington, D.C., handgun ban on grounds that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to possess a handgun in your home for self-defense.

The National Rifle Association then filed lawsuits seeking to overturn handgun bans in Chicago, Morton Grove, Evanston and Oak Park.

Wilmette and Morton Grove preemptively repealed their bans.

Now that both suburbs have thrown in the towel, and newspaper editorials have urged Daley to do the same to save millions in legal costs on a fight he can't win, he appears to be having second thoughts.

At a news conference called to tout the 6,848 guns collected at last week's gun turn-in program, Daley was asked point-blank whether he would continue the legal fight to keep Chicago's handgun ban.

"We don't know yet. ... We're not gonna run away. We're gonna try to figure this out," he said.

Under further questioning, the mayor said city attorneys would simultaneously contest the law and work on a possible replacement.

Chicagoans with guns in their homes might be required to have insurance to protect taxpayers from frivolous lawsuits, he said.

"We're talking about putting first-responders in a very, very delicate position of people being armed without being notified how many guns they have in their homes," Daley said. "We have to be able to fashion a law that truly protects first-responders and protects the citizens."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; chicago; daley; heller
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1 posted on 08/04/2008 11:16:05 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: DMZFrank; endthematrix; Chgogal; NotJustAnotherPrettyFace; Lawgvr1955; Petruchio; stylin19a; ...

Aint that special!


2 posted on 08/04/2008 11:18:17 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

Duh. Bright guy...


3 posted on 08/04/2008 11:18:25 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I'm a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 1, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: neverdem
Mayor Daley on Friday cracked the door open to abandoning the costly fight to uphold Chicago's 1982 handgun freeze -- if he can fashion a replacement ordinance that protects the safety of first-responders.

I knew it! The Second Amendment was always to be subject to protecting police.

Do I need a sarcasm tag?

4 posted on 08/04/2008 11:21:05 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power with desire for evil.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Large areas of his city have been made war zones by such gangs at the Gangster Disciples, the Latin Kings, the Vice Lords, the Cobras, and the El Rukn’s. These gangs, and criminals in general, don’t care what the gun laws are, because they won’t abide by them anyway.


5 posted on 08/04/2008 11:22:17 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I couldn’t agree more Dilbert. Laws of these types on citizens simply means the gangs have nobody to fear.


6 posted on 08/04/2008 11:26:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I'm a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 1, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: neverdem
Mayor Daley on Friday cracked the door open to abandoning the costly fight to uphold Chicago's 1982 handgun freeze -- if he can fashion a replacement ordinance that protects the safety of first-responders.

Simple... allow the first-responders to arm themselves.

See? Took me all of two seconds to come up with that solution. Next?
7 posted on 08/04/2008 11:26:53 AM PDT by Diggler (We will be beaten with our own virtue. Proud American Infidel!)
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To: neverdem
Chicagoans with guns in their homes might be required to have insurance to protect taxpayers from frivolous lawsuits, he said.

Look up the word INFRINGED, you worthless tub of puss!

8 posted on 08/04/2008 11:27:44 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: neverdem

If the RAT idiots would make it legal for law-abiding American citizens to defend themselves, the crime rate would drop like a rock. And as far as these gang punks killing each other, that’s fine with me. Apparently the Chicago cops are too busy beating up female bartenders to do anything about the gangs.


9 posted on 08/04/2008 11:28:11 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Carry_Okie

I think the Illinois state constitution is the only one in the Union that states the right to bear arms is subject only to law enforcement.


10 posted on 08/04/2008 11:45:10 AM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: neverdem

Yes. When will we end this epidemic of senseless shootings of first responders by armed homeowner lunatics? What? There have been only two in the last 30 years? Then, when will we end this epidemic of senseless shootings of homeowners by first responders?


11 posted on 08/04/2008 11:48:13 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: neverdem

Looks like Hiz Honor’s moneymen have told him that it looks pretty damn likely that the City will lose - and that the gun banners will find the 2nd Amendment incorporated. It’s unlikely that they would lose on trial or appeal, but the Supes have dropped some HUGE hints in Heller. Now, if he works out another law, then the incorporation issue goes away until Obama can pack the court, then the gun-banners get another bite at the apple. You can read the filings for McDonald vs. City of Chicago here...

http://www.chicagoguncase.com/


12 posted on 08/04/2008 11:52:49 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

I doubt Obama will be packing anything besides his wallet and pie hole. Thanks for the link.


13 posted on 08/04/2008 11:59:02 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

Your have to read carefully,

essentially he is saying he will pass a new law which DOES THE SAME THING.

Unfortunatly for Daley the standard is now STRICT SCRUTINY officially and ANY ordinance will have to pass the strict scrutiny test in order to survive.

Of course Daley is just going to pass ANYTHING and say it is different even if it is identical.


14 posted on 08/04/2008 12:11:03 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: neverdem
He might give up the fight if it was HIS money being spent on legal fees.
15 posted on 08/04/2008 12:12:05 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (When it comes to Obama, just keep the change.)
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To: neverdem

Yer welcome. Gura (same atty as Heller) is on the case. That man would be unable to buy his own drinks if he lived anywhere near me. We gun owners owe him. Big time.


16 posted on 08/04/2008 12:13:42 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: longtermmemmory

Yer gonna have to show me where in Heller (or elsewhere) where it says strict scrutiny (and I’m not talking about dicta, if’n ya don’t know what that is, then you need to learn).


17 posted on 08/04/2008 12:15:21 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: unixfox

“Chicagoans with guns in their homes might be required to have insurance to protect taxpayers from frivolous lawsuits, he said.”

Calling a pig an eagle doesn’t make the pig able to fly - this is nothing more and nothing less than a tax on a constitutionally-protected right, which is forbidden by “Murdoch v. Pennsylvania” (1943):

http://nesara.org/court_summaries/murdoch_v_pennsylvania.htm


18 posted on 08/04/2008 12:39:33 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obomination from becoming President)
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To: neverdem

Guess the lawyers told him that inspite of him thinking he is King of Chicago that in reality the Supreme Court of the USA has more say in this then he does. :)


19 posted on 08/04/2008 12:43:54 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Carry_Okie
Personally, I was thinking:

“Remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.”

The fact is that Mayor Daly, who rides in an armored limousine and has a 24/7 personal bodyguard, feels, along with the other gun grabbers, that citizens dead at the hands of criminals is preferable to them being able to defend themselves when and where needed.

Criminals are classic predators. They all have a cost-benefit calculus running and that formula tells them to prey on the weak because it is less dangerous than preying on the strong.

20 posted on 08/04/2008 1:00:40 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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