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What Happened To Justice In America? (Compean & Ramos)
humanevents.com ^ | 08/04/2008 ET | Rep. Dana Rohrabacher

Posted on 08/04/2008 10:15:39 AM PDT by kellynla

What happened to justice in America? It certainly wasn’t served on July 28 when the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the unjust convictions of Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean. As it stands today, these two brave border protectors must now serve out their full 10-plus-year sentences for shooting and wounding a Mexican drug smuggler they encountered while he was carrying a million-dollar payload of narcotics along the Southern border in Texas. What started off as simple procedural mistakes by the agents has turned into an unimaginable travesty of justice unlike anything I’ve ever seen in my 30 years in Washington, D.C.

It’s difficult to reconcile why U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton would choose to seek out drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila, in Mexico to offer him immunity, unconditional border-crossing cards and free medical care in exchange for his testimony against the border agents. Ramos and Compean did not wake up the morning of Feb.17, 2005, with the intention of committing a crime, unlike the illegal alien drug-smuggling “victim.” They put on their uniforms, strapped their weapons around their waists and pinned on their badges, as they had for five and 10 years respectively, with the intention of patrolling our borders to protect America.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; badshoot; borderagents; borderpatrol; compean; dirtycops; dirtyprosecutor; houseofdeath; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; justice; liarcops; ramos; ramoscompean; rohrabacher; sutton
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To: calcowgirl

It’s been revealing from the start how Sutton’s glee club routinely invents “facts”.

Remember “shot in the back”? We don’t hear that one much anymore, so I guess they have finally learned how to tell their butts from their backs.


41 posted on 08/04/2008 1:58:28 PM PDT by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: calcowgirl

July 28, 2008 CONTACT: Joe Kasper
(202) 225-5672

HUNTER CALLS ON PRESIDENT TO PARDON BORDER AGENTS

Court upholds conviction of agents Ramos and Compean

Washington, D.C. – U.S. Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA) condemned the Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit today for its decision to uphold the conviction of imprisoned Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.

Agents Ramos and Compean were sentenced to 11 and 12 years in prison, respectively, for wounding a fleeing drug smuggler who was later convicted for running drugs into the United States.

“Those of us who have been following this case from the very beginning were confident that the Fifth Circuit, based on the evidence at hand, would rightfully correct this miscarriage of justice,” said Congressman Hunter. “Unfortunately, the Fifth Circuit decided to uphold this severe injustice.

“Agents Ramos and Compean were convicted based on the testimony of a known drug dealer that has since been convicted for running drugs across the border. In fact, the drug dealer was continuing to run drugs into the U.S. while serving as the government’s star witness. The fact that the drug dealer’s criminal activity persisted even as he took the stand against these agents is reason enough to vacate these two convictions.

“It is not too late for President Bush to do what is right and pardon Agents Ramos and Compean. The President has pardoned far less deserving individuals and these agents deserve no less.

“I intend to appeal to the President once again and personally request that he review the facts of this case and immediately pardon Agents Ramos and Compean.”

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/speech/ca52_hunter/Agents_Fifth_circut.shtml


42 posted on 08/04/2008 1:58:56 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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“has” should be “had”


43 posted on 08/04/2008 1:58:57 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Pelham

Compean testified that he tried to “push” Aldrete-Davila with his shotgun, and medical tests were inconclusive as to the direction Aldrete-Davila was facing when he was shot.


44 posted on 08/04/2008 2:02:29 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I had heard the same, but like I said, “this was a snowjob”. It “could” have came from one of the Agents weapons. It could have also been fired by several that I own. They weren’t even real sure about the type of gun, let alone that it came from one of the agents guns. http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/002066.html


45 posted on 08/04/2008 2:32:32 PM PDT by WildcatClan (Duncan Hunter isn't opaque.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Again, please remember that Ramos and Compean never denied firing their weapons.

Yes, I understand that. They admitted firing their weapons with reason. Whether or not they hit him is irrelevent to assault. In other words, had the agents stated they fired their weapons over the head of Davila in an attempt to scare him and the bullets had missed, they would have still been guilty of assault.

46 posted on 08/04/2008 2:45:44 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC

The did not fire to scare him. They said they thought he had a gun. Since he fled and escaped successfully there is no way to prove that he was or wasn’t armed. If they thought he was armed and fired, that was use of reasonable force and not in any way assault. Even if it was assault; When was the last time someone got 10 years for assault?


47 posted on 08/04/2008 3:34:38 PM PDT by WildcatClan (Duncan Hunter isn't opaque.)
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To: rednesss

The redness is in the spine?


48 posted on 08/04/2008 3:55:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: Pelham
"And hopefully you too will end up jailed for a ‘crime’ trumped up by a corrupt prosecutor."

Not likely, I'm not in the habit of shooting people running away from me in the buttocks, but here's wishing a triple bypass to you.

You know instead of wishing ill upon me, you could work hard to get the law changed for everybody, since we all should be afforded the same protections under the Constitution, not just your pet issues/people.

49 posted on 08/04/2008 3:55:22 PM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: jagusafr
"The trier of fact, in this case the jury, decides what facts are worthy of belief and weight..."

As a Mouth Piece, you know that's BS. The judge controlled what "evidence" was allowed, and thereby, the verdict. Thanks for showing us what you're made of.

50 posted on 08/04/2008 4:00:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: Pelham
My favorite (false) allegation from the glee-club:
"the prosecuter has evidence that the two were heard saying they were going to hurt a mexican"
Heck... they even fed that one to Congress and got busted in their dis-information campaign.
51 posted on 08/04/2008 4:00:40 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: WildcatClan
The did not fire to scare him.

I know that. I am illustrating why it does not matter whether Davila was injured or not to the charge of assault.

I believe Ramos and Compean. I have defended them over and over, so don't misconstrue my hypotheticals. This has to do with why Ramos stipulated that the bullet which hit Davila came from his gun.

52 posted on 08/04/2008 4:06:51 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: iThinkBig; jagusafr
"Thank you for the clarification obfuscation of the process."

There fixed it for you.

53 posted on 08/04/2008 4:15:12 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: kellynla
This is how GW sticks it to anti-amnesty Republicans--by making us watch these two being punished unjustly.

If we had a Dem in the WH, we'd likely be batter able to push for a pardon.

54 posted on 08/04/2008 4:15:54 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: kellynla
The liberal statist elite love to protect their own while ignoring real abuses by law enforcement. I'm still waiting for the US Gov officials responsible for the deaths of 80+ men, women and children (multi-racial) at Waco, Texas, to pay for their homicidal conduct.

I'm also waiting for Lon Horiuchi to be brought to justice for the slaying of nursing mother Vicki Weaver, wife of "while separatist" Randall Weaver, while he (LH) was going for a two'fer.

These victims are not illegal aliens, drug smugglers or members of other protected liberal-beloved group, but they are dead. Dead. Unlike the drug smugling illegal who survived to assist in the conviction of two border agents.

55 posted on 08/04/2008 4:29:09 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: nonsporting

I was told by one of Johnny Sutton’s apologists here at FR that the
“victims at Ruby Ridge weren’t entirely blameless” and
“that nut job Koresh deserved a thumping.”


56 posted on 08/04/2008 5:16:42 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: AndrewC

I understood we were in agreement. My point was if they thought he had a weapon, that was reasonable force. The jury thought they were dealing with some poor and downtrodden illegal just looking to do the work Americans won’t do. Many things about this case do not pass the smell test for me and I think the whole thing was a whitewash from the start. Had the jury believed Davila had a gun they would have had to have found the Agents, not guilty. They took the illegal criminals word over that of the Agents.


57 posted on 08/04/2008 5:19:29 PM PDT by WildcatClan (Duncan Hunter isn't opaque.)
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To: calcowgirl

bttt


58 posted on 08/04/2008 6:32:02 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: editor-surveyor

There’s really no need to be snotty. I didn’t make up the process, and I’m not a mouthpiece for anybody. I was explaining what the rules of appellate procedure provide for, not taking a position. You have no clue what I’m made of.

Colonel, USAFR


59 posted on 08/04/2008 6:45:02 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: Guenevere

I’ve seen a lot of outrageous statements during my time here at FR.
Those uttered on R&C threads are the most outrageous.


60 posted on 08/04/2008 6:45:07 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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