Posted on 08/02/2008 12:56:26 PM PDT by wagglebee
Awww, now I'm gonna cry.
About the sort of reply that I expected.
Another typical response:
Liberal: “Women should be allowed to control their own bodies, because you can’t legislate morality.”
Normal Human: “So, if you can’t legislate morality, that means we should repeal all the laws that prohibit stealing, since such laws are an attempt to legislate ‘Thou shalt not steal.’”
Liberal: “I’m not in favor of stealing! I can’t discuss anything with you if all you’re going to do is make crazy statements!”
cite?
I apologize for the previous post.
No. I am not a Hindu. I have my beliefs. I believe our souls exist and cannot die. Therefore if a child is aborted I don't believe his soul dies. I believe God keeps it in his heart till another time.
Those were your own words.
Meaning what? That my beliefs don't coincide with yours? Ok.Thanks for your belated forthrightness, but you are wrong. Abortion is a grave moral evil that must be opposed. Killing an unborn child is a human deciding that they know better than God. It's the ultimate non serviam of our times.
I never said abortion was good. I still believe that God takes care of the souls and the body, as their vessel, is the only thing that dies.
The Christian Bible teaches that it is appointed unto each human once to die and then the judgment. If we believe those little one sin the womb are fellow human beings, then we ought apply that designation in a way that acknowledges the horrific lost due to their intentioned demise ... I call that murder since it is intentioned termination by violent means of the human being alive in the womb. What God does witht he soul and spirit of such slaughtered little ones has not been revealed to me or anyone else, as far as I know. But the sad fact is, as a Christian I count the abortion demise as yet another fellow human being who will never occupy community in my world, your world, or the world of the author of the article. That's a tragic loss to community due to intentioned slaughter without just cause.
That said, I agree with you that there are just reasons to allow termination of pregnancies, but such just cause must--for the sake of rightness--not make an automatic death sentence upon an innocent alive other human being if there is any way to avoid the death of the innocent.
A pregnancy that threatens to kill the mother must remain the right of the mother to terminate--to save her own life--else our common law heritage of self-defense means little when pressed to adjudicate rightly for the ultimate benefit of the innocent in society.
I notice that you are concerned about illegal aliens in this country. I wonder if it has occurred to you that the problem with the aliens is DIRECTLY RELATED to abortion.
When FDR created the Ponzi scheme known as Social Security, it was a viable scheme because the average person would only live long enough to collect for a few years, if at all. However, advances in in medicine increased life expectancy; nevertheless, the scheme was still workable.
Then after World War II the Baby Boom started; however, even this wouldn't strain Social Security because the presumption was that this generation would eventually reproduce at normal and predictable levels.
Then in 1973, just as the bulk of the Baby Boomers were entering their prime reproductive years, abortion came along and about a decade earlier, birth control became fully legal and things like the Pill also reduced childbirth. These factors, but mainly abortion, created an unpredictable abnormality in population growth. We didn't just kill 50 MILLION+ innocent Americans, we killed 50 MILLION+ TAXPAYERS and WORKERS.
Why are there so many jobs available for illegal aliens (and just so we're clear, the notion that they work for substandard wages is no longer true and hasn't been for a long time)? Because Americans have not reproduced at normal rates in the past 35 years.
Why do some want to grant the illegals amnesty? Very simple, Baby Boomers are ready to start retiring by the tens of millions and the ONLY way to preserve Social Security is to add TAXPAYERS.
Would we still have illegal aliens in the country without abortion? Certainly. Would we have no many? NO, because the jobs wouldn't be there.
Just for clarification: ‘little one sin the womb’ should read ‘little ones in the womb’ ... I do not believe the little ones in the womb can sin.
Well written.
At what point does that start?
It was a fumbling spur of the moment jesture, my FRiend. But raybbr deserves respect for being so open and forthright in stating beliefs so person to him/her. And after all, the intent of the author of this article likely was hoping to generate reasonable debate through the use of hyperbole-laden writing. I know I certainly desire such when I write a pro-life essay.
That said, I agree with you that there are just reasons to allow termination of pregnancies, but such just cause must--for the sake of rightness--not make an automatic death sentence upon an innocent alive other human being if there is any way to avoid the death of the innocent.
A pregnancy that threatens to kill the mother must remain the right of the mother to terminate--to save her own life--else our common law heritage of self-defense means little when pressed to adjudicate rightly for the ultimate benefit of the innocent in society.
they do that at some high school graduations by placing empty chairs for those aborted who could have been there graduating too.
Thank you for noticing the nuance. I just wish someone at the RNC would get it and explain the realities to the American people so we could end this heinous wholesale slaughter of alive sensing unborn children and take away the abortion empowerment scheme democrats have been using for too long now and for too many millions of murdered fellow Americans.
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