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MILITARY: General says victory 'all but won' in Anbar
NC Times ^ | August 1, 2008 | Mark Walker

Posted on 08/01/2008 8:00:38 PM PDT by jazusamo

Camp Pendleton commander backs cut in Marine forces in western Iraq

Camp Pendleton's Maj. Gen. John Kelly said Friday that the military is on the verge on victory in Iraq's once rebellious Anbar province.

"We have all but won this thing when they once said that was impossible," Kelly said during a telephone interview with the North County Times from his headquarters in the city of Fallujah, once a flash point in the battle against the insurgency. "The rest of the country is now following Anbar's lead."

The two-star general was deliberately cautious about declaring outright victory, stressing that work remains to solidify security in the region, which intelligence officials said could never be tamed.

Kelly, the commander of the I Marine Expeditionary Force Forward, said increased stability has led him to recommend troop cuts that could see thousands come home and not face future deployments to Iraq.

"It's still dangerous," Kelly said of the province where the temperature on Friday neared 120 and a sandstorm was raging. "But the Marines and sailors that have served here have done an outstanding job."

While he declined to provide the specific size of his recommended troop reduction in the sprawling area that borders Saudi Arabia, Syria and Jordan, Kelly said the number of troops has already been cut from 37,500 in March to about 25,000.

"It ranges from tiny to big, and it will be event-driven," he said. "But I am saying we no longer need some of these guys."

Kelly's comments echoed statements made by President Bush on Thursday, who said he expects to cut the countrywide U.S. force of 140,000 before he leaves office.

The general's recommendations go to the Pentagon brass, which includes his boss, Camp Pendleton's Lt. Gen. Samuel Helland, head of Marine Corps forces throughout the Middle East.

Many of the Marines and sailors now in Anbar are from Camp Pendleton and Miramar Marine Corps Air Station. And many of the units that have been serving there since the start of the year are returning as their seven-month assignment ends. That includes a 250-troop force from the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing at Miramar scheduled to return home on Sunday.

Kelly, who has two sons in the Marines, including one in Iraq, repeatedly referred to his forces as being able to "throttle back," or reduce operations as the Iraqi army and police forces grow in number and ability.

Two Iraqi national army divisions in Anbar are now fully "stood up," and the province the size of North Carolina west of Baghdad has seen its police forces swell from about 5,000 three years ago to about 28,000 today.

Kelly, whom tribal leaders refer to as "sheik of the sheiks of the Marine Corps," said he has transferred security responsibility in the cities to the police forces, which have been trained by civilian U.S. specialists and backed up by Marine squads embedded with them at their stations.

In the areas immediately outside the cities, Kelly said the Iraqi national army is now responsible for security.

"Further out," the Boston native said, "the Marine Corps still owns the battle space and our infantry guys are still doing combat operations all the time. The difference is we aren't getting shot at as much."

Other factors underscoring the growing stability include a sharp drop in the number of roadside bomb and small-arms attacks. Bomb attacks now range between 10 and 14 per week with the discovery of unexploded bombs included in the total.

"We haven't had an IED attack directed at coalition forces in three weeks," Kelly said. "The remaining al-Qaida cells are now targeting Iraqi security and army forces."

Just how soon U.S. forces might be to leave Anbar altogether is unclear. But the military will soon shut down some of its larger bases, Kelly said, including Camp Fallujah. It also is reducing the number of troops at nearby Al Taqaddum Airbase and has turned over bases in the cities of Ramadi and Habbaniya to the Iraqi army.

Military leaders and observers credit the improvements in Anbar to Sunni tribal leaders turning away from the insurgency at the cajoling of U.S. commanders, who relied on force, persuasion and cash to accomplish their goals. Indiscriminate attacks that included Sunni victims aided in the rejection of the insurgency.

The U.S. also spent hundreds of millions in Anbar on public utility projects that have helped win over the population.

With violence down, commanders such as Kelly now concentrate on solidifying ties with the dominant Sunni population while continuing to train and mentor the Iraqi police and army forces.

The region's more than 1.2 million people mostly live in cities such as Fallujah, Ramadi, Haditha, Hit and al Qaim. Many of the cities were once insurgent strongholds before the "Awakening" that started the rejection of the insurgency and al-Qaida foreign fighters in late 2006.

Kelly said the military also is ramping down its presence in the more populous regions, and he noted that Iraqis and U.S. forces now share the roads equally whereas the military previously required the local population to give way to military vehicles.

John Pike, founder and director of the defense monitoring group Globalsecurity.org in Washington, said he believes Kelly's Anbar outlook is correct.

"It's still possible this thing could go in the ditch, but when you look at the fatality counts, July is probably as close to being able to declare victory as one can get," Pike said in reference to only 11 U.S. troop deaths countrywide last month. "The problem that remains (in Anbar) is that various armed factions are going to want to test things once there is a significant troop drawdown."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: anbar; fallujah; iraq; marines; mohammedanism; usmc; victory
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To: smoothsailing
Bill Russell can defeat John Murtha

I glanced at your tagline and pictured the most incredibly one-sided game of one-on-one in history! :-)

21 posted on 08/01/2008 9:34:16 PM PDT by JennysCool (A man who served his country well vs. a walking Che poster. Is it really that tough a choice?)
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To: jazusamo
The Gore thing was a huge fiasco and heads should have rolled over it.

Absolutely right and I was in the middle of it to the point of being on the grass in Tallahasse courthouse when the SCOTUS made their ruling.

But ya gotta ask yourself, why didn't heads roll? Who should have prosecuted but didn't?

I really don't blame the Democrats for not prosecuting their own, so who should have but didn't?

22 posted on 08/01/2008 9:55:40 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO cuz I'm too conservative to be a Republican. McCain is the Conservatives true litmus test)
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To: ken21

actually, we welcome them home almost every day at DFW airport with patriotic music, flags and crowds cheering and clapping. I even wear my 3 inch heels and a short skirt...


23 posted on 08/01/2008 10:02:12 PM PDT by AprilfromTexas
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To: AprilfromTexas

Good for you. And how nice of you to remind them what they have been fighting for-—your appearance must make for many smiles.


24 posted on 08/01/2008 10:09:33 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve--and they are about to get it --in spades.)
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To: Eagle Eye

That was so messed up there’s more than enough blame to go around for everyone, the leftist FL Supreme court, Jeb Bush and Kathy Harris to start off with.

The thing that’s appalling is that it’s almost eight years later and a Sen. is trying to make some headway, those corrections should have started in Jan. of 2001.


25 posted on 08/01/2008 10:20:52 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: AprilfromTexas

Thanks for what you and others are doing, April, that’s fantastic!


26 posted on 08/01/2008 10:22:26 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: JennysCool
Jenny, you are so cool! ;-)
27 posted on 08/01/2008 11:08:43 PM PDT by smoothsailing ( Bill Russell can defeat John Murtha - Visit http://russellbrigade.com/)
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To: AprilfromTexas

THE US Army (Ft Richardson) here in ANchorage put up a chain link fence on the road leading to the runway at EAFB so familes have a place to put up welcome home banners etc.

See a soldier at the airport - buy him/her a beer - it’s fun and good for the economy..


28 posted on 08/02/2008 12:01:33 AM PDT by ASOC
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To: ken21

Many Marines arrive late at night. But, by God, there’s John Phillips Sousa in the background whether it’s actually playing live or just in your mind : )

I think Marines work too hard to bother with parades ; )


29 posted on 08/02/2008 3:20:43 AM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: jazusamo; smoothsailing

I MEF better not try to take all the glory, laud and praise ; )


30 posted on 08/02/2008 3:22:21 AM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: jazusamo; Jarhead2844; USMCWriter; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; ...

Dang, I got all wrapped up in the moment and forgot to ping.


31 posted on 08/02/2008 3:24:20 AM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: freema

you know,

sousa’s music is uplifting!

if i’m in a funk, i play patriotic music.

that’s one reason why the lib-socialists don’t like patriotism; it’s positive.

lib-socialists prefer to be depressed.


32 posted on 08/02/2008 6:35:09 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: jazusamo

yes!

tell people you know at the supermarket

so that some lib-socialist listening in gets it.

i did that at ace hardware the other day when they did not have a plastic bag.

ace hardware did away with plastic bags to be enviro friendly.


33 posted on 08/02/2008 6:37:31 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: AprilfromTexas

good for you!

visuals with the music.


34 posted on 08/02/2008 6:38:45 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
At this time of the year the construction of a pier near the Las Plugas gate, is most likely the work of a Naval Construction Battalion (Sea Bees), or it could be the work of a Marine Reserve Engineer Company.

Remember some Marines use hammers to subdue the enemy and some Sailors are pretty damn good bulldozer operators.

Semper Fi
An Old Man

35 posted on 08/02/2008 9:24:02 AM PDT by An Old Man ("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
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To: An Old Man
Remember some Marines use hammers to subdue the enemy and some Sailors are pretty damn good bulldozer operators.

Thanks for the clarification.

My step-dad was a Seabee in WW II. On Guadalcanal.

And, damn, I'm proud of him.

36 posted on 08/02/2008 9:32:19 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: freema

Our commanders on the ground continue to carefully express their opinions on what success we have thus far. The Iraqi political process between the central government and the province in question weights heavy in the equation. Thus far things are going according to plan because the Sunni tribes have been cooperating, some in a very big way. But things can change if the central government does not continue to bend and offer concessionary tidbits to the al Anbar tribes.


37 posted on 08/02/2008 2:49:44 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...Now we are left with a bunch of idiots.)
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To: freema

Big marine presence in Oceanside in the fourth of July parade. And most welcome.


38 posted on 08/02/2008 2:55:44 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: jazusamo

This is horible news........................for democrats. That party has put themselves in the untenable and indefensible position that any good news from Iraq is bad news for them.


39 posted on 08/02/2008 2:56:57 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: jazusamo
But the military will soon shut down some of its larger bases, Kelly said, including Camp Fallujah.

Would it be better to t urn it over to the IRAQ army and let them decide to close it ?
40 posted on 08/02/2008 3:05:40 PM PDT by stylin19a
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