Posted on 08/01/2008 5:10:41 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
A Utah entrepreneur who has waged a public campaign to assist teens who fled or were kicked out of a polygamous sect was an abusive father and husband who abandoned some of his own children, according to affidavits submitted Thursday to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
The allegations against Dan Fischer, founder of South Jordan-based Ultradent Products Inc., are detailed in sworn statements from a former wife, three children, three siblings and others familiar with his family.
Fischer testified before the committee July 24 in a hearing requested by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who is pushing for a federal investigation of the FLDS.
The 14 affidavits were submitted by Rod Parker, a Salt Lake City lawyer and spokesman for the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Six affidavits also were posted Thursday on an FLDS Web site, truthwillprevail.org.
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“During his senate testimony, Fischer said an investigation of the FLDS would likely reveal ‘’men who can provide economically for all their families but choose not to do so with the convenience of nonrecorded ‘spiritual wives’ and children versus ‘legal wives’ and their children.’’ “
Hypocrite alert.
It seems to me the other way around, they want to destroy him because he’s helping the innocent young men who are pushed out of the sect so the dirty old men can have their fair share of 13 year old “wives.”
Bull Hockey. They are just trying to drag him down because he has helped the Lost Boys and victim “wives” of this insidious cult.
Saundra Duffy, you are blind to the facts. I suggest you seriously try to imagine yourself back as a 15- or 16-year old girl, with a lecherous old man coming at you, and no one to defend you, even your family.
Only then, if you give it a real hard try, will you begin to understand why the FLDS cult is so reviled by normal, moral people.
Go ahead, close your eyes. Think, for God’s sake. Look at your children. Imagine, really imagine. Would it be a nightmare to you if it were real?
Enlightening read. Although it's not the book's main focus, it's got some pretty interesting things to say regarding Jessup and his crowd.
Oops, getting my last names mixed up. Jessup should read Jeffs.
FLDS may be right about this man - but even that doesn’t mean he’s wrong about them.
And you have to take into consideration that FLDS has a reason to lie. A man leaves the cult, tries to help teenagers who have been booted out of it, and aids lawsuits against the group - which turns around and denounces him as abusive. There are two sides to this - and we have yet to hear from an objective party.
Why didn’t the wives he left behind file domestic abuse or child abuse charges against him, back when this happened?
“so the dirty old men can have their fair share of 13 year old ‘wives.’”
Takes one to know one. (You asked for that.)
First of all, everyone deserves due process before being condemned.
Second, what the authorities did by terrorizing the children in the raid and roundup was absolutely horrific.
And the witch hunt continues . . .
“the FLDS cult is so reviled by normal, moral people.”
I guess that makes me abnormal and immoral. Actually, I am reviled by people who think the Constitution protects only certain hand-picked Americans.
I guess the TX Supreme Court and that appellate court are run by abnormal and immoral people. I believe it can be proved that most “normal, moral people” were horrified at the sight of those innocent children being rounded up at gunpoint and adult women being held against their will.
Furthermore, the FLDS attorney Parker is smarter than all of us put together. I wouldn’t want to get on his bad side, which this Fischer guy did.
You wanted to be pinged.
“Bad Blood” might be a better title for the book since there hasn’t been a feud like this since the Hatfields and the McCoys. That is one reason why the ex FLDS book writers are skating on thin ice. They have an axe to grind and they want to grind it in the faces of the entire FLDS community, Constitution be darned.
One way I know it is wrong, what is happening to the FLDS, is that the main stream media and liberal politicals are lapping it up!!
Harry Reid jumped right in the middle, the fool.
Repeat:
Why didn’t the wives he left behind file domestic abuse or child abuse charges against him, back when this happened?
(I like your FReeper name.) Be that as it may, this man has been guilty of every blasted thing he is accusing them of - and worse! He had 3 wives, 16 children (?), and lived the FLDS life for many years. Then he gets fed up, changes his mind, hates everyone, and leaves with ONE of his wives and SOME of his children. Then proceeds to get rich and dedicate the rest of his life and fortune to destroying the people he used to be just like.
I think it stinks! Why Harry Reid is enamored of this guy is beyond me . . . well, not really.
I have never known FReepers to agree with Harry Reid on any subject . . . until now.
And the witch hunt continues . . .
“Why didn’t the wives he left behind file domestic abuse or child abuse charges against him, back when this happened?”
Uh, let me see . . . maybe because they were afraid of him? Sounds like he’s a real monster, the worst kind, a holier-than-thou monster.
“Why didn’t the wives he left behind file domestic abuse or child abuse charges against him, back when this happened?”
Repeat: Maybe it was because they were afraid of him. He admitted he spanked the kids and he admitted that some of these accusations have some truth to them.
But I just can’t get mad at you, AppyPappy, because I respect you so much, even though you are agreeing with Harry Reid on this subject which is wildly contradictory and ironic.
I don’t believe the women who wrote books, either, but even if it is true what they say - what happened to them - it does not mean that every FLDS man, woman and child should be rounded up, emotionally tortured, and destroyed.
“Fischer called the allegations of abuse ‘exaggerated beyond any level of equity,’ but acknowledged ‘physical confrontations on all sides’ involving his wives. He denied anything more than common corporal punishment with his children.”
He acknowledged physical confrontations on all sides, meaning he was abusive to WOMEN. What a creep!
Yep the sooner they get those children out from under the control of the abusers [both male and female] the better off they will be. The girls won’t be forced into relationships with their elder men and the lads won’t be froced out to the cruel world.
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