Not much for characterizing catalysts as "green", but if true this would be something to watch (not sure if PV will be the big application eventually, though).
1 posted on
07/31/2008 5:48:39 PM PDT by
sionnsar
To: sionnsar
But, but, but I thought it was impossible. How can it be?
2 posted on
07/31/2008 6:16:23 PM PDT by
sagar
To: sionnsar
A liquid catalyst was added to water before electrolysis to achieve what the researchers claim is
almost 100-percent efficiency.
IOW ...a perpetual motion device. YUP!
3 posted on
07/31/2008 6:23:25 PM PDT by
Don Corleone
(Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
To: sionnsar
This is a poorly written article. It’s very difficult to figure out what they have done that hasn’t been done before.
5 posted on
07/31/2008 6:30:18 PM PDT by
1955Ford
To: sionnsar

We gotta let it out
8 posted on
07/31/2008 6:55:54 PM PDT by
VaBthang4
("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
To: Salvation
To: sionnsar
Too many unanswered questions. Smacks of University of Utah’s cold fusion.
Article is worthless.
11 posted on
07/31/2008 7:39:27 PM PDT by
TFMcGuire
(Either you are an American, or you are a liberal)
To: sionnsar
not sure if PV will be the big application eventually, though I don't know why but they sure are making a big deal about using this with PV. That's what makes me suspicious. It would be very beneficial to make it easier to split water on a huge scale with electricity from any source.
I wonder if this is any better than the large solar collectors that use molten salt to store energy.
12 posted on
07/31/2008 7:59:55 PM PDT by
Moonman62
(The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
To: Uncledave
for the renewable energy ping list
13 posted on
07/31/2008 8:01:40 PM PDT by
Kevmo
(A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
To: sionnsar
By combining the two, excess capacity during the day could be stored as hydrogen and oxygen, then used in fuel cells at night when needed. I usually don't see photovoltaics used with the phrase "excess capacity."
14 posted on
07/31/2008 8:01:56 PM PDT by
Moonman62
(The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
To: sionnsar
Not much for characterizing catalysts as "green", but if true this would be something to watch (not sure if PV will be the big application eventually, though).IMHO, I think you have it backwards. Wikipedia has a decent discussion of catalysis and catalysts. Catalysts just lower the energy of activation to get a reaction going forward. Photovoltaic cells capture the sun's free energy. Generating hydrogen from the electrolysis of water captures the energy for storage it in the form of hydrogen. It's just a storage medium. How you apply it is different. You lose energy anytime you convert it from one form to another according to the Second Law of Thermodynamics, IIRC. It will be lost as heat, so you may want to use the electricity from the PV cell as directly as possible, storing excess power as hydrogen.
15 posted on
07/31/2008 8:06:56 PM PDT by
neverdem
(I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
To: SirKit
16 posted on
07/31/2008 8:12:12 PM PDT by
SuziQ
To: sionnsar
18 posted on
07/31/2008 8:27:15 PM PDT by
neverdem
(I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
To: sionnsar
Researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology have combined a liquid catalyst with photovoltaic cells to achieve what they claim is a solar energy system that could generate electricity around the clock...with enough energy to power your typical iPod......
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20 posted on
08/01/2008 12:29:19 AM PDT by
SunkenCiv
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Renewable Energy Ping 
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25 posted on
08/01/2008 5:49:41 AM PDT by
Uncledave
(Zombie Reagan '08)
To: sionnsar
Researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of TechnologyEver since the "Scientists" at most universities have been pushing Global Warming as a FACT, I don't trust what they say.
I need more evidence from these researchers before I even believe they are telling the truth.
27 posted on
08/01/2008 6:45:01 AM PDT by
SteamShovel
(Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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