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OSU engineer: Hydrogen system in autos a scam (!)
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| 7-31-2008
| By Steve Lathrop
Posted on 07/31/2008 11:54:15 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Rick.Donaldson
You are correct.
That which I refer to as a voltage regulator is likely more properly known as a solenoid.
The device in an auto's electrical system that opens the circuit between the battery and the alternator. Thereby ensuring that the battery does not take too much voltage and damage it.
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posted on
08/04/2008 6:38:14 AM PDT
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(There are many kinds of love. As for me, nothing swells the heart quite like love of country.)
To: ColdWater
No, they do NOT work on the same principle.
Hydrogen being ignited requires both hydrogen and oxygen and this is a CHEMICAL combination.
A nuclear weapon uses plutonium and is a FUSION (nuclear!) reaction. They are NOT the same at all.
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posted on
08/04/2008 7:56:34 AM PDT
by
Rick.Donaldson
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To: thackney; ColdWater; djf; editor-surveyor
But we are talking about chemical reations.Mass is lost, even in chemical reactions. Look up mass deficit or binding energy. Water weighs less than the hydrogen and oxygen that make it up.
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posted on
08/05/2008 9:04:44 PM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Half the time it could seem funny, the other half's just too sad.)
To: Toddsterpatriot; thackney; ColdWater; djf
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Mass is lost, even in chemical reactions." Yes, but not at a level that effects this discussion. This is all about the current wave of 'flim-flam' that has arisen due to the high price of fuels.
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posted on
08/06/2008 11:36:56 AM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
To: editor-surveyor
Yes, but not at a level that effects this discussion.Mass is lost at the level needed to produce the energy released when hydrogen is burned. You can back into the mass lost by plugging in the energy released into the formula E=MC2
This is all about the current wave of 'flim-flam' that has arisen due to the high price of fuels.
I agree these units are a scam. If you buy one, buy it here.
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posted on
08/06/2008 11:59:04 AM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Half the time it could seem funny, the other half's just too sad.)
To: Toddsterpatriot
The mass exchange is too small to measure on a desktop analytical balance, thus cannot possibly be recognizable for purposes of this discussion.
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posted on
08/06/2008 1:14:42 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
To: Toddsterpatriot
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If you buy one, buy it here." Yea, brown's gas electrolysers are nothing new; they've been in production numerous times since 1932, but they just don't produce enough boost in economy to justify the purchase price, and time it takes to install them, unless you are going to boost your compression ratio, and use water/alcohol injection, and even then it takes years to break even. Most don't keep their cars that long.
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posted on
08/06/2008 1:20:35 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
To: editor-surveyor
Yes, the mass is very tiny. And still yields a lot of energy. Just like fission destroys a tiny amount of mass, to yield a lot of energy.
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posted on
08/06/2008 1:48:56 PM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Half the time it could seem funny, the other half's just too sad.)
To: editor-surveyor
but they just don't produce enough boost in economy to justify the purchase price,I know. I was just thinking about our poor fellow Freeper.
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posted on
08/06/2008 1:49:55 PM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Half the time it could seem funny, the other half's just too sad.)
To: norraad
Not for hundreds of years if ever will a better energy storehouse than a gallon of gas be produced Disagree completely. Energy density in supercooled superconducting capacitors will exceed that soon.
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posted on
08/06/2008 1:51:54 PM PDT
by
Centurion2000
(A citizen using a weapon to shoot a criminal is the ultimate act of independence from government.)
To: Centurion2000
So true, and how wonderful is that.
The point I'm making is we could have doubled our fleet ave. MPG for the past 50 years with simple fixes like High Pressure Fuel Injection.
Your a first, most naysayers say 'Oh, it's too hard, so much pressure".
Meanwhile, look at the hydraulic pressure in our brakes?
If it could be done there, why not at the fuel rail?
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posted on
08/06/2008 5:49:47 PM PDT
by
norraad
("What light!">Blues Brothers)
To: Abathar
If you put a couple of titles in front of a name, it is somehow expected that you get a better answer.
Assuming that the second law isn’t broken AND that these two people aren’t pulling a Bill Clinton, how could more MPGs be attained?
Hmmm...Could it be that perhaps 80% of the fuel is wasted in the normal process and burned off as exhaust?
For this “Professor” to make an ignorant comment like this makes me want to move to Idaho. Why wouldn’t he want to see the results first hand? Is he in the hip pocket of the Arab oil interests?
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