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To: MrB
No, the bible is not a science book - literally Thank God.

On that we fully agree!

Science books have to change when they are wrong.

Fixed that for you... Math textbooks are rarely wrong, and most physics intro books are pretty darn solid. Likewise with most books dealing with Maxwell's equations, or Newton's laws of motion.

But see, that's the nice part of science - a change is made when the evidence shows it to be wrong. What's wrong with that? It's called learning.

The Word of God is not.

On issues of morality, relationship with God and man, and spiritual philosophy, I completely agree.

what OTHER portions of scripture are you willing to “compromise” on? Christ’s virgin birth? His Deity? His crucifixion and substitutional atonement? His resurrection?

None of them. And I know that is at odds with my stance about Genesis. However, I'm not holding it up as fact since it cannot be proven. This is where faith comes in.

The Bible is not meant to be a historical record, or a science book. It is a love story, of God and His people, and how we and He relate to each other, and how we should relate to each other.

If some parts are at odds with proven science, we either chalk it up to a miracle (meaning it is NOT scientific, but supernatural - only because of God), or that the story as presented in the Bible was told and written for the understanding of the original audience.

Demanding - or even claiming you have - proof leaves you little more than a doubting Thomas. Faith cannot exist in the presence of facts; the two are essentially at odds with each other.

Faith is belief in what exists beyond facts. I have no problem with that. And I will not demand that my faith be forced on to others, nor demand that it be presented as facts, or even a rigorous scientific body.

158 posted on 07/31/2008 11:02:26 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
The Bible is not meant to be a historical record

And here is where we part company. The Bible self claims to be the Word of God. If the Word of God is fallible in Genesis, ie, it's wrong,

then you have nothing to hang your belief on in the new testament, because Jesus Himself (was He a liar or not a part of the trinity/deity?) affirms the validity of Genesis in multiple references.

Read some AnswersInGenesis. They have articulated it much better than some "decorated dust" on a message board.

160 posted on 07/31/2008 11:07:41 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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