Birth Certificate: Obama, Soetoro or Dunham

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/birth-certificate-obama-soetoro-or-dunham/ ^ | 7/30/2008 | Texas Darlin

[Neville72]

NOTE: This post attempts to summarize the status of our investigation and current theories. (Links at end.)

Guest Author Judah Benjamin has given us three well-researched articles, so far, challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility to be President. He argues that the Constitution restricts people with “divided loyalties” from being POTUS, including those who have had multiple citizenships, and he hypothesizes that Sen. Obama became a citizen of Indonesia when he was adopted by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. Benjamin also questions whether Obama may still possess Indonesian citizenship. To his credit, Benjamin offers to publish an apology to Sen. Obama if documentation disproving the assertions is shown.

WHAT ABOUT THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

If you’ve been following our stories, you know that technical experts Techdude and Polarik still maintain that the Certification of Live Birth (COLB) published on the Obama campaign’s official website, FightTheSmears, was forged. I have expressed skepticism about that conclusion, not because I question their skills, but because I find it hard to fathom that Obama, as audacious as he is, would publish a forged COLB. When a newspaper announcement of Obama’s birth in Hawaii was discovered, I stated my belief that Obama was likely born in Honolulu. But I have maintained that Obama is hiding something about his birth record.

SOETORO, OBAMA, OR DUNHAM? MY THEORY ON THE COLB

Thanks to Judah Benjamin’s work, the mystery of Obama’s COLB is quickly being solved — at least in my mind. Here is my current theory of events:

1. Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, with the legal name Barack Hussein Obama II, and Barack H. Obama Sr. was identified as his legal father. [NOTE: an alternative theory, that Obama was born in Canada, is still being researched.]

2. Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Hawaii sometime around 1965-1966.

3. As part of the adoption procedure, pursuant to Hawaiian law, Obama’s original Birth Certificate (BC) was SEALED, and a new Birth Certificate was issued with his new name, Barry Soetoro, and the name of his new father, Lolo Soetoro.

4. Mother and son joined Soetoro in Indonesia, where Barry Soetoro was registered in school as Lolo’s son, a Muslim, and a citizen of Indonesia.

5. After approximately 4 years, Barry Soetoro returned to Hawaii as a U.S. citizen to live with his grandparents and attend private school.

6. At some point before his 18th birthday, he most likely changed his legal name back to Barack Hussein Obama, but his Birth Certificate would not have been modified again unless there was another adoption (by the Dunhams, for example).

SO….IF the above-stated hypotheses are correct, Obama’s current Birth Certificate in Hawaii would identify him as Barry Soetoro and his father would be Lolo Soetoro (unless, as stated, there was another adoption).

Upon request by the registrant (Sen. Obama), the State of Hawaii would issue a COLB in the name of Soetoro for child and father. Is this why the Senator has avoided showing his Birth Certificate? And is this why — if Polarik and Techdude are correct — the COLB published by Obama has been altered?

QUESTIONS:

1. Did Obama’s childhood passport identify him as Soetoro or Obama?

2. If there is a Kenyan Birth Certificate, how was that obtained? (NOTE: One of our researchers still believes that Obama was born in Canada because of the existence of the Kenyan BC, among other reasons, and we will explore that shortly.)

3. Was Barry Soetoro adopted a second time when he returned to Hawaii, perhaps by the Dunhams? (IF there was a second adoption, there would have been another legal change to the BC.)

4. Does Barack Obama hold Indonesian citizenship today, or did he renounce it at some point?

AND FINALLY –

5. If any or all of these hypothesized facts are TRUE, why has Senator Obama deceived the American public?

Stay tuned for more…

[Uncle Chip]

Thanks for the link — very interesting

[AmericaUnited]

#2 She's in Texas. That's pretty far from the Honolulu library and/or the Honolulu Advertiser's nearest office.

I believe if you read the site, someone found it and gave it to her.

[AmericaUnited]

Here, from my browser favorites:

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/current/sp/surf

[John Valentine]

Here’s something to consider, and I speak of all this with first hand, personal knowledge of the procedure described in Hawaii, and in the specific time period in question.

Back in the 1960s, in Honolulu, the Hawaii Bureau of Vital Statistics had a policy of allowing unmarried mothers the option of not “disclosing” the name of a child’s father at the time of registering the birth.

Later, the mother could petition to have the record amended, or “regularized” in the parlance used at the time, to include the name of the “father”. Of course, the “father” named on the newly updated certificate was very often, perhaps most often, not the biological father of the child in question, but more likely the man the woman was to actually marry.

This expedited process was used to spare the time and expense of an adoption - but, strictly speaking, it involved a degree of fraud which was winked at by the authorities at the time.

It is easy for me to imagine that Ann Dunham might have declined to name Barak Obama Sr. as the father of her newly minted son at the time he was born, Obama being married to someone else at the time and all. “And all” also meaning that I have never seen any evidence that Ann Dunham and Barak Obama Sr. ever tied the knot themselves.

And, if Dunham did use this procedure for her little out-of-wedlock son, she just might have later had the name of Lolo Soetoro conveniently added to the Birth Certificate as the father of young Barry.

After all, she did marry the man and accompany him back to Indonesia. This process would have been very much eased and expedited if Soetoro were to have been named as the father of Ann Dunham’s young son.

But, it might be pretty hard to explain all this to a skeptical electorate in 2008. This theory, based in personal knowledge of the practice I describe, could explain the problem Barry has in coming up with an authentic birth certificate.

[bvw]

“Toot” is a Dutch name. There is an ancestry site out there with Obama’s lineage, it has Toot.

[bvw]

"Obama and his half-sister Maya Soetoro-Ng refer to [Madelyn] Dunham as "Toot" — short for "tutu," the Hawaiian word for grandparent." - Wikipedia

Since the Dunham's ancestors did not live in Hawaii, it seems unlikely that there was such a person as Anna Toot in their family tree.

You can not trust Wikipedia about Obama. It is not "unlikely", it is a researched fact:

233 Anna Maria Toot, b. Adams Co., Pa., ... [1786 or 1787], d. Delaware Co., Ohio, 23 Aug. 1841, bur. Radnor Cemetery, Radnor, Ohio

See http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

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[profanity removed]

Please learn to trust your fellow Freepers, before you put your faith in those who would deliberately confuse others, such as Wikipedia on polititcs, or "Jon Stewart", or the MSM.

[browardchad]

I suppose all that would be required to do this is to look up microfilm of the Honolulu Advertiser at a library.

Yes. If only there was a FReeper who lived nearby.

One of Pam Geller's readers got a copy of the birth announcement by calling  the Hawaii State Library and speaking to a research librarian. She sent the copy to Pam,  who posted it here at AtlasShrugs. Note that the reader says she was the second person who requested the lookup; so you could assume that whoever supplied it to Texas Darlin was the first.

Of course, if you're still skeptical, you could call the library and get a copy directly from them.

[dforest]

Well, just who the hell is he? Really.

[null and void]

based in personal knowledge of the practice I describe,

Yep. Been there, have the kid...

[null and void]

The mask of the enemy.

[ReignOfError]

Were birth records normally sealed in a second-parent adoption in the 1960s? They aren’t today. And I don’t think they were for Leslie Lynch King Jr. in the 1910s or William Jefferson Blythe in the 1940s.

[Jedidah]

I don’t know.

The difference between Obama and Ford and Clinton were that Ford and Clinton freely and fully told the stories of their childhoods, of their birth fathers, and of the men who reared them. And, in both cases, all the individuals involved were of U.S. culture.

There are just so many unanswered questions about Obama, and much of his background is of questionable ideology (Marxist parents, Indonesian childhood, communist mentor (Davis), Pakistani traveling companions in college, possible multiple citizenships, etc.) .

He has written much about his African biological father, whom he only met once post-infancy, but he has disclosed very little of the Soetoro/Indonesian years. That’s where all the questions arise.