New License ID Rules Have Dramatic Effect

KOIN Website ^ | 7/30/2008 | KOIN Website

[enraged]

"Since those ID rules went into effect, there has been a dramatic decline in the number of applicants who take the knowledge test in Spanish."

[enraged]

'Bout Time!

[ridesthemiles]

Where is KOIN located??

[Clemenza]

Good for Oregon. Now if only Pennsylvania and Nawth Carolina would follow suit. There is a reason why so many of the illegals in Jersey have PA and NC plates.

[ElkGroveDan]

Where is KOIN located??

In a fountain?

[null and void]

Catering to the state’s diverse culture, the California Driver Handbook is available in nine languages:

* English

* Armenian

* Spanish

* Chinese

* Korean

* Vietnamese

* Tagalog

* Russian

* Punjabi

[dennisw]

Since those ID rules went into effect, there has been a dramatic decline in the number of applicants who take the knowledge test in Spanish."

If you are legal you can still take it in Spanish
I fail to see a problem

This newspaper is trying to make a sob story over this

[sheana]

I have to have my CDL renewed next month and believe me I am dreading it. Every third person in the DMV here is speaking Spanish.

[null and void]

And that’s just the staff...

[VeniVidiVici]

Sounds to me like the Oregon DMV can now save a few bucks and layoff some DMV folks that were hired to handle the huge number of illegal Spanish speakers seeking licenses.

[MisterEd37]

Where is KOIN located??

Portland, Oregon.

[sheana]

lol true.

[dragnet2]

Since those ID rules went into effect, there has been a dramatic decline in the number of applicants who take the knowledge test in Spanish.

There are now 65% fewer Spanish-speaking applicants than there were before the ID verifications went into effect.

Good for Oregon.

But the joke is, we are supposed to be at war? Where is the &%#* Homeland security?

Why wouldn't Congress and Bush demand ALL states do this?

[dragnet2]

Could it be this whole terrorism and Homeland security thing is a hoax?

If not, why not strict standards for every state?

[longtermmemmory]

the problem is that the desk jockeys want the war to be a “police action” so the desk jockeys can have the power back.

bullets mean less work for pencil pushers.

[Hoffer Rand]

Is that a Trevi-a question?

[tvdog12345]

All states are required to do this as part of the Real ID Act.

[OnRightOnLeftCoast]

<< Since those ID rules went into effect >>

From a liberal state, they are putting their foot down:

"Even if you've had your driver license or ID card for years, or even decades, you must bring documents that meet new state requirements EACH TIME you renew or replace your card. As of July 1, 2008, all applicants for Oregon driver licenses, instruction permits and ID cards will be required to show DMV documents that provide:

Proof of U.S. citizenship or lawful presence in the country – such as a birth certificate or U.S. passport, or foreign passport with U.S. immigration documents.

Proof of Social Security number – such as a Social Security card, employment document or tax document. Proof that you are not entitled to a Social Security number, if you do not have one and are not eligible for one – such as immigration documents that do not include permission to work in the United States.

Proof of full legal name – such as birth certificate, or a combination of documents that create a link proving current full legal name, such as a birth certificate and government-issued marriage certificate.

The new requirements taking effect July 1, 2008, are a result of state law passed during the 2008 Oregon Legislature. They are in addition to other requirements, such as proof of Oregon address, payment of fees and passage of tests. Drivers younger than 18 must meet additional state requirements.

There are several state and federal initiatives designed to tighten ID issuance.

Since Feb. 4, 2008, DMV has been electronically verifying Social Security numbers of applicants for new, renewal and replacement driver licenses, permits and ID cards....

After July 1, 2008, Oregon DMV will begin to use "facial recognition" software, a new tool in the prevention of fraud. The law, created by the 2005 Oregon Legislature, is designed to prevent someone from obtaining a driver license or ID card under a false name.

[TheBattman]

Well - if prospective drivers don’t have to be able to read English to take their test, then shouldn’t all road signs thus be labeled in all languages that the test is offered in?

After all - what good is passing a test in a language that isn’t even the one used for highway signs and markings?

[null and void]

Please don’t go there.

[InABunkerUnderSF]

From a liberal state, they are putting their foot down:

In addition to being a "liberal" state, Oregon is probably the worse nanny state in the western US (with a statewide 55 mph speed limit as well as other 'dangers and annoyances' for the visiting motorist).

I suspect this has more to do with highway safety than it does with any attempt to control illegal immigration.