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Reps. Tanner and Dingell seek to strike deal with NRA
The Hill ^ | 07/28/08 | Mike Soraghan

Posted on 07/29/2008 6:30:37 PM PDT by neverdem

Democratic lawmakers and leaders are hoping to work out a compromise as early as this week with the National Rifle Association (NRA) on legislation to further loosen gun laws in the District of Columbia.

Reps. John Tanner (D-Tenn.) and John Dingell (D-Mich.) are working with the gun-lobbying group to head off a discharge petition filed last week that would bypass committee to bring a D.C. gun bill directly to the floor.

“Dingell and Tanner are going to negotiate a compromise with the NRA and then show it to the leadership,” said a Democratic aide.

The NRA has threatened to make the signing the petition a “key vote.” That means that Democrats in favor of gun rights who don’t buck leadership to sign it could see their NRA rating suffer.

Some Republicans are angered that the NRA, considered one of the most powerful and effective lobbying operations in Washington, is negotiating with Democrats rather than holding their feet to the fire. One aide called the strategy “naïve.”

But the NRA has reason to bargain, too. The group wants a victory to follow up on the Supreme Court ruling rejecting the District’s ban on handguns. But it is running out of time on the legislative calendar. There is only one day, Sept. 22, left on which a discharge bill can be forced to the floor, and Democrats could sidestep it procedurally by canceling votes that day.

In addition, if Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) is elected president, conservative Democrats such as the members of the Blue Dog Coalition are one of the few legislative bulwarks against Democratic attempts to further regulate guns.

Spokesmen for the NRA and Tanner did not return messages seeking comment. Dingell’s office said there was no change from a statement last week that called the situation “very fluid.”

Rep. Mark Souder (R-Ind.) filed the discharge petition last Thursday to bring a bill by Rep. Mike Ross (D-Ark.), a Blue Dog leader, to the floor. The bill, drafted before the June court ruling, would erase some of the district’s remaining gun laws.

One hundred and nine GOP members have signed the petition. Ross’s bill has 247 co-sponsors, including 56 Democrats.

But even if Souder gets the 218 signatures needed to force the bill to the floor, it will be difficult to get a vote. After the threshold is met, Souder must wait seven legislative days. Then, rules say discharges can only be done on the second and fourth Mondays of the month. That leaves only Sept. 22 for a vote on the gun bill. But the majority can avoid a vote by not going into session on that Monday.

Signing a discharge petition is considered a slap at party leaders. But if Democrats knew there wouldn’t be a floor vote, they might be able to sign the discharge petition with impunity.

Which leaves negotiations. One possible element of a compromise would include allowing District residents to buy guns in Virginia and Maryland and transport them home. Currently, there are no licensed gun dealers in the District, so there is no legal way for residents to get a gun to their home.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist; bluedogcoalition; congress; democrats; guncontrol; nra; shallnotbeinfringed
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To: padre35
padre35 said: "... or they [the DC Circuit Court] may not [protect Heller]."

The DC Circuit Court's "uppitiness" has already resulted in the Heller decision. The DC Circuit Court must now obey the decision of the Supreme Court. They have no latitude to do otherwise. It's too late to change their minds.

21 posted on 07/29/2008 10:06:09 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: bill1952

I’d Tango with the devil.

And I’d find a way to win.


22 posted on 07/29/2008 10:26:58 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: Lurker

Absolutely correct!!!


23 posted on 07/29/2008 10:34:47 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: TYVets

So how many times have legislators fooled us?


24 posted on 07/29/2008 10:47:10 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: Gilbo_3; All

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoM6IFiyRjE


25 posted on 07/29/2008 10:58:40 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: neverdem

What’s the bill number? I need to know whether it is a good compromise that gains freedom or a bad compromise that loses it? I also need to know if this effects the latest lawsuit.


26 posted on 07/29/2008 11:31:28 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: Lurker
The NRA has spent way too much time on K Street....

I'm a life member, but the NRA won't get more money from me. Not after what Alan Gura said about them, or their 2006 endorsement decisions, like Joe Schwarz with an A-. A-? Maybe D-, and that's if I'm being generous.

27 posted on 07/29/2008 11:54:00 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
Let's give "Blue Dogs" the boot

From Bridge to Troubled Water (Sen. Ted Stevens should resign.)

Where’s the Bounce? (For Barack Obama after his great trip overseas)

D.C. Is Sued Again Over Handgun Rules

From time to time, I’ll ping on noteworthy articles about politics, foreign and military affairs. FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

28 posted on 07/30/2008 12:09:34 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

Compromise?

How about the way US Grant compromised at Fort Donelson?

How about like Harry Truman compromised with Emperor Hirohito?

Sure, let’s compromise.


29 posted on 07/30/2008 3:56:59 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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To: neverdem
Some Republicans are angered that the NRA, considered one of the most powerful and effective lobbying operations in Washington, is negotiating with Democrats rather than holding their feet to the fire. One aide called the strategy “naïve.”

I agree...this is poor strategy by the NRA.

30 posted on 07/30/2008 5:39:42 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
31 posted on 07/30/2008 8:12:30 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: neverdem

32 posted on 07/30/2008 8:41:59 AM PDT by Pistolshot (NO B.O.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


33 posted on 07/30/2008 10:07:22 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Shooter 2.5

Where are you? Come tell us how this is a “good thing”...


34 posted on 07/30/2008 10:42:15 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Darren McCarty
What’s the bill number?

I don't have a clue. You'll have to hunt at Thomas. I'm busy now.

35 posted on 07/30/2008 10:58:53 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The GOA is AWOL as usual.

You would be throwing your money away.


36 posted on 07/30/2008 3:03:09 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Dead Corpse

I’ll wait until I see the results before I make a decision.

You’re worried about that fireman with that axe in his hand while your house burns to the ground.


37 posted on 07/30/2008 3:06:11 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: neverdem

Just what does the NRA have to do with the SCOTUS case?

As I understand it, the case was the brainchiild of Robert Levy, a wealthy entrepreneur affiliated with the Cato Institute, not the NRA. Levy developed, strategized and funded the case personally... so now NRA comes in for the bows? oh, and fundraising?


38 posted on 07/30/2008 3:09:12 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: neverdem

NRA compromises with theses guys, my donations and membership go elsewhere.


39 posted on 07/30/2008 3:10:32 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Obama (Marxist), Manchuria)
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To: William Tell

The DC Circuit upheld Heller’s position. It was the DC government that challenged the DC Circuit Court of Appeals decision and brought it to the SCOTUS.


40 posted on 07/30/2008 3:15:19 PM PDT by EDINVA
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