Posted on 07/27/2008 6:54:26 PM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
Although it is just a copy, Obama's birth certificate is invalid due to one simple fact -- it is incomplete. Without the certificate number, there is no way that it can be validated.
Such a certificate can have really be anything, including:
- Never having been a certificate at all
- Being dated long after the birth occurred
- Having a fraudulent certificate number
- Having a certificate number that is inconsistent with other information on the certificate
- Having a certificate number that invalidates the rest of the document (inconsistent with dates, etc.)
Why was this information blacked out?
Only Obama and perhaps his closest advisors probably know.
How could there be any danger in disclosing it?
If the number was valid, it would be tied to the original document that should agree with everything that is on the copy. Since Hawaii will only release this to the individual or the next of kin, there is nothing to be lost by providing this number.
Unless......you are hiding something, or something on the copy is inconsistent with the original.
Therefore, even with all the excellent work done by Techdude and others, the copy provided is invalid in that information, the certificate number, was removed by blacking it out. End of discussion.
You can’t just have a parent who is an American to run for President. According to the Constitution, you have to be born on American soil.
IN 1961 HAWAII WAS A TERRITORY OF THE UNITED STATES, for Heavens sake. Learn about America and it’s Territories. If she gave birth to nobama in 1961,in Hawaii, he is a Citizen of the United States...I don’t care if she was 14 or 16 or 18, she gave birth to him in Hawaii therefore he is an American Citizen. All this garbage about Hawaii being a territory is just that GARBAGE! It WAS and IS a part of the United States of America, Just as Alaska was and is, just as Puerto Rico is and so is American Samoa. Anyone born in these territories are AMERICAN CITIZENS. These territories have elected Territorial Representative in the House, but their votes don’t count.
Obama’s problem is not that he’s not a natural born American in fact and in law. It’s that he’s not really an American in his own mind.
The Dunhams lived in Hawaii, not Indonesia...she moved to Indonesia with her 2nd husband, who was a muslim.
Because as stated in post 24, being a US citizen isn't enough. The law requires the US citizen ( the parent ) to have lived ten years in the U.S., five of those years after her 16th birthday. She was only 18 when BO was born. Thus she did not meet the requirement that she had to live for 5 years in the US after her 16th birthday, Therefore she cannot pass on citizenship. Thus, BO would not be a natural born American Citizen.
This whole sheebang began with his “step-grandmother” telling the press nobama was born in Kenya. This sheebang interesting to watch.
Why on earth do people think that Hillary’s camp will have vetted this kind of topic already!?? She is no more superhuman than any other squab on this planet. Not that I mean to help her - she is the most evil person I’ve seen in public life - but she is a viable US presidential candidate. And that is confirmable - unlike BO. Both of them, and in my opinion, the democrap party high leadership are socialists. If the american people wish to elect and propogate a bunch of marxists, well, that’s their choice. However, the same american people need to know who’s on the playing field. And BO is not a valid candidate.
If you think Hillary is so ill-informed so as to have missed the OB forgeries and dual citizenship issues, perhaps you should get the beloved main stream media (aka MSM) to investigate(ya right).
I don’t profess to know how this whole blogging thing works. There are apparently some of “them” that are paid to mess with people that want to have a real discussion and there apparently are all kind and version of plants that do whatever they do for paid bucks.
Having confessed my ignorance, I marvel that anyone, on any blog, has the audacity(there’s that word again)to declare an issue closed. Sounds alot like that IdGiT Gore declaring that a scientific debate is over.
This debate about BO’s legitamacy is far from over. Much like the Goreocity of warming is over. NOT!
It would seem obvious that those declaring the debate(s) over simply want others to give up and go on to some other topic. So why are they monitoring these discussions and throwing little bombs in there to discourage the discussion? Just a thought... but God, I hate frauds.
The first reported itty-bitty baby Barak sighting was 2500 miles away from Honolulu.
One of Stanley Ann’s friends reported that at that time she had to show Stanley Ann how to change a diaper.
Why would any mother put a neonate through the risks of travel if she didn’t have to?
I haven't been paying attention to this, but on his tour did I hear mention of his having been born in Mid east? I thought Hawaii because his parents married and went to school there.
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I think this whole Birth Certificate problem came about because the woman he calls “grandmother Kezia” a Kenyian, said nobama was born in Kenya.
There is a lot of conflicting information, that is why the certificate number (which is blacked out on Obama’s web site) is so important.
I’ve contacted Judicial Watch as well as Bob Barr to look into this. Not necessarily the best, but we can use all the help we can get.
Can’t a FReeper go to the city hall in Hawaii and look through the records? Aren’t birth records public record? Shoot, California lists their births online prior to 1996.
have you folks not done a simple search on this web site for “obama birth certificate”????? There’s a megaton of info on the topic. Much semi high tech analysis of graphics stuff related to alleged official documents, discussions on elegibility for POTUS, references to the qualifications of persons supplying the above. If this is your first time experiencing these questions, I apoligize for being condesenending. If you ask these simplistic questions to waste my and others time, shame on you!
Because Obama only has one parent who was a citizen. Which means she had to live in the US for 10 years and 5 of those years had to be after her 16th birthday. She was 18 when Obama was born, therefore if he was not born in Hawaii he would not be a natural born citizen of the US, in fact he wouldn't be a naturalized citizen either. However, even if the certificate is fake doesn't mean he wasn't born in Hawaii. They did hide the ID number, and they did fake the certificate. Why they did so is the big question.
Where was it, in a manger somewhere ?
Second, at some point Obama’s people will reveal the true birth certificate, making all the people who spent a great deal of time on it look stupid and paranoid.
***Then at the very least, it proves he’s been playing games with this topic all along. Certainly not very presidential.
See the link at posting #35.
Hillary already knows what's up. Remember how she said he is unelectable? Somehow this fits in with Obama fund raising for her after she lost to him in the primary. Was she making him dance to her tune over this?
Mercer Island
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