Posted on 07/27/2008 8:46:55 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
Indeed. The Indian Casino in NY that I was actually at have NY State Gaming Commission Agents and law enforcement officials on the premises 24/7. The patrons there were good and decent average folks (just like me) enjoying the entertainment and themselves.
Indeed. The Indian Casino in NY that I was actually at have NY State Gaming Commission Agents and law enforcement officials on the premises 24/7. The patrons there were good and decent average folks (just like me) enjoying the entertainment and themselves.
Look, I could be way off base, but I do think the funds are helping the Indians. I think the initial casino deal probably wasn’t that bad, but I reject the call to expand them.
Nobody promised the tribes an income river. They were supposed to get an income stream.
Well, why not? There's the problem right there. Any dummy would come up with an average of what good and bad times would bring in revenue.
Within the last few weeks, a long ago preplanned vacation in Palm Springs supports your contention. Visited three and found very few visitors and many machines not occupied. One casino had stands for new machines, but were not installed. Tables were very empty. (I go mainly for the buffets and little gambling) Gas was around $4.25 to $4.50. Traffic was extremely light, not like past years.
Gambling is destructive and is nothing more than a tax and most affects those who can least afford it. There is a reason why it used to be outlawed in the U.S., and not because of outdated Puritan morals, but because of the common knowledge that gambling appeals to our destructive instincts. It’s the arrogant belief that we in 2008 are smarter than our forefathers, that we pass new well intentioned laws to sponsor ideas like gambling. When it’s “for the (children, Indians, etc.)”, then we reject the wisdom of our forebears.
With each succeeding generation, it seems, we try to continue to tear the fabric of society that has made this country great.
The same in Vegas. The manager of the slot attendants at our hotel said the air fare prices “... are killing us.” I booked our flights to Vegas in March at a great price before oil prices started rising. Less people are driving from LA to Vegas as well, I was told. Our economy is about energy.
I live here. My family are friends with people who get checks. I live on the street that leads to the Casino. Everyone driving to the Casino on Edison Street drives by my house. Why is the word "facts" in quotation marks? What is it that you dispute?
First of all, explain how 150 self-proclaimed Chumash share in the pot, while there are 12,000-15,000 (according to our local Santa Ynez Historical Society) Chumash descendants who get nothing. Secondly, are you for reparations in general, or only for people who claim to be indigenous? Finally, how do you feel about preferential treatment of minorities in general? I think racial preferences result in racial divisiveness. Why can't all races operate casinos? Why don't the Indian Casinos have to follow the same permit process and pay the same taxes as other businesses run by people of other ethnic backgrounds?
gee, who could have seen this coming? /UltraDrippingSarc
It sounds like you are the one with the "personal biased opinion". I used quotation marks because I was quoting you. I am throwing in the English lesson free of charge.
My assertions are about the Chumash Casino. Once again, I would like you to specifically point out a single error in what I have asserted here.
First of all, we are the fourth generation of our family to live in our 108 year old house so we have no intention of leaving. Second of all, I never called anyone "dirty". Once again, those are your words so I am using quotation marks. I think you may need to take a deep breath and re-read my posts re; my problems with the Chumash Casino. If you would like to engage in a meaningful debate or discussion I am happy to oblige. I think the debate on these threads is very educational and it is helpful to hear from all sides.
Gambling is for people who are bad at math, but being foolish should not be a crime. I do not think gambling should be against the law but I think every U.S. citizen should have to be governed by the same laws. That is the basis for my opposition to the so-called Indian Gaming; there is a racist double standard at the foundation of these institutions.
The Chumash Casino did not have to adhere to the local building codes, application process, business licensing, taxes, etc. of other new businesses in our county. It was built against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of the residents of this small hamlet. We have little or no recourse as citizens. Our elected officials are not able to enforce the county regulations that normally govern such enterprises. That is my concern. I have no problem with legalized gambling.
There’s always somebody in the crowd who loves to throw a turd in the punch bowl.
The corruption and obvious inherent unfairness is a big problem, but for me it comes down to racial preferences are never okay. I think if opening and operating a casino is legal, it should be legal for everyone and competition should occur. Anything less is un-American.
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