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Are Pot Users Criminals? The Tragic Case of Rachel Hoffman
ABC News ^
| July 24, 2008
| BRIAN ROSS and VIC WALTER
Posted on 07/25/2008 8:49:03 PM PDT by bamahead
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To: Gondring
It's not good news when we have LEOs encouraging the breaking of lawsWhat law did the LEOs break? Or encourage to break?
501
posted on
07/26/2008 6:24:14 PM PDT
by
Mojave
To: Mojave
Oh, so you still don't get it.
I guess that your point is that we have a terrible problem with illegal whisky sales out of car trunks, so, therefore, repeal of prohibition failed.
I'm sorry to hear that. I feel bad for your area being so far out of date. Maybe you need to advertise in your town that prohibition is over...as soon as folks realize they can buy legal whiskey, I bet that problem will go away. Folks will likely cut back on the Tommy Gun massacres there, too.
502
posted on
07/26/2008 6:24:32 PM PDT
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: waiyu
The pro-drug crowd is always looking for a new martyr. They have another failure in Hoffman.
Hoffman told her drug buddies she was an undercover informant. She planned to write a book about her adventures. She invited a friend to videotape her first sting. She went with the perps who killed her after the police told her not to.
http://www.november.org/stayinfo/breaking08/FinalNight.html
503
posted on
07/26/2008 6:25:53 PM PDT
by
Mojave
To: Mojave
Bricks of what? Lumps of clay that are quite dense, hardened, and enjoy basking in hot air, oblivious to the fresh air and enlightenment that exists outside their own little world.
504
posted on
07/26/2008 6:26:01 PM PDT
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: Gondring
I guess that your point is that we have a terrible problem with illegal whisky sales out of car trunks, Your strawman is dressed in a guess.
505
posted on
07/26/2008 6:26:56 PM PDT
by
Mojave
To: Gondring
Lumps of clay that are quite dense, hardened, and enjoy basking in hot air, oblivious to the fresh air and enlightenment that exists outside their own little world. It's your chimney.
506
posted on
07/26/2008 6:27:49 PM PDT
by
Mojave
To: Mojave
I am not going to say that any were broken, as—unlike you—I don’t believe we can convict them without a trial. Besides, even if they didn’t break one yet, that doesn’t mean the policy is good—if it’s set up with incentives for them to break it.
But since you asked, check upthread...you can see the prosecutor’s words about what the chief did.
507
posted on
07/26/2008 6:29:46 PM PDT
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: Gondring
Iunlike you dont believe we can convict them without a trial.You love them strawmen.
508
posted on
07/26/2008 6:31:40 PM PDT
by
Mojave
To: Gondring
Ya know. Me thinks you missed the point. Let me draw you a picture. The whole reasoning behind the "Bank Robbery" post. A girl died tragically. To this I will agree. However, had she not been doing something illegal she would never had been put into that position in the first place. She chose to do something that is well known to be against the law. She made her bed and she is sleeping in it. It's threads like this that make me kinda wish that pot was legal. If for no reason other than 10 years from now when Cheetos are $15 a bag and people are given bonuses at work for staying employed for more than a month I can ask the potheads: How's that working out for ya?
509
posted on
07/26/2008 6:32:53 PM PDT
by
waiyu
(Living is the only thing worth dying for.)
To: Mojave
. She went with the perps who killed her after the police told her not to. Yeah, just like trained police do...
...r-i-i-i-ght.
Don't tell me that training wouldn't have helped her.
510
posted on
07/26/2008 6:35:00 PM PDT
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: Mojave
but if pot was legal the world would be full of rainbows and unicorns. And the only problem in the world would be the munchies. </sarc>
511
posted on
07/26/2008 6:35:51 PM PDT
by
waiyu
(Living is the only thing worth dying for.)
To: Gondring
Don't tell me that training wouldn't have helped her. She had on the job training. Her book deal with never happen now.
512
posted on
07/26/2008 6:36:36 PM PDT
by
Mojave
To: Mojave
I’m sure you think that the country would be better off if Rush Limbaugh and Cindy McCain were in prison. Rational don’t people think that way.
513
posted on
07/26/2008 6:37:11 PM PDT
by
SUSSA
To: Mojave
Nope. Never been busted, never tried, convicted or sentenced. Clean record. You?
I see cops daily, in the scope of my work... and they’re always out doing fundraising for the city. Stealing cars, whatever they can lay hands on. In other words doing the very things we hired them to prevent. Our OFFICIAL thieves, thugs and gangbangers are doing a landoffice business... while criminals roam the streets, victims have to go online to fill out reports. They’re sorta like how I’d picture you if you were a LEO and not just a wannabee.
514
posted on
07/26/2008 6:37:29 PM PDT
by
dcwusmc
(We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
To: waiyu
However, had she not been doing something illegal she would never had been put into that position in the first place. She was convicted of doing something illegal?
No, not the earlier marijuana possession for which she failed to show in court and got three days and was in the program.
I'm talking about the claim that she was doing something illegal later.
Of course, she likely was. But if "likely was" is going to be our standard for punishing people, we can do away with courts and just have the police mete out justice based on "probable cause"...
Oh, wait, that's exactly what happened in this case!
Gee.
515
posted on
07/26/2008 6:37:51 PM PDT
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: waiyu
516
posted on
07/26/2008 6:38:00 PM PDT
by
Mojave
To: waiyu
Funny...the potheads I knew in college are all doing quite well now.
517
posted on
07/26/2008 6:39:00 PM PDT
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: Gondring
She was convicted of doing something illegal?She cut the deal so she wouldn't be convicted.
518
posted on
07/26/2008 6:39:01 PM PDT
by
Mojave
To: dcwusmc
519
posted on
07/26/2008 6:40:12 PM PDT
by
Mojave
To: SUSSA
Im sure you think that the country would be better off if Rush Limbaugh and Cindy McCain were in prison. Are they drug dealers? No DU or DailyKos sources, please.
520
posted on
07/26/2008 6:41:55 PM PDT
by
Mojave
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