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Are Pot Users Criminals? The Tragic Case of Rachel Hoffman
ABC News ^ | July 24, 2008 | BRIAN ROSS and VIC WALTER

Posted on 07/25/2008 8:49:03 PM PDT by bamahead

After being caught twice with a "baggie" of marijuana, 23-year old Rachel Hoffman was reportedly told by police in Tallahassee, Florida that she would go to prison for four years unless she became an undercover informant.

The young woman, a recent graduate of Florida State University, was murdered during a botched sting operation two months ago.

"The idea of waging a war on drugs is to protect people and here it seems like we're putting people in harm's way," said Lance Block, a lawyer hired by Rachel's parents.

The Florida Attorney General's office says it is reviewing the procedures and protocol of the Tallahassee police.

"I'm calling her a criminal," Tallahassee police chief Dennis Jones told 20/20, who maintains that both drug dealers and drug users are considered criminals to his department.

Under Florida law, possession of more than 20 grams of marijuana is a felony.

The Tallahassee police chief says Rachel was suspected of selling drugs and she was rightly treated as a criminal.

"That's my job as a police chief to find these criminals in our community and take them off the street, to make the proper arrests," Jones told 20/20.

Rachel's case also is raising questions about how police recruit and use informants in undercover operations.

"There need to be some safeguards here," said Block, the Hoffman family lawyer.

The young woman received no training before being sent to an undercover meeting to buy a large amount of drugs and a handgun from two suspects.

Police says Rachel was killed by the very handgun she was supposed to buy.

"I don't think she understood the risk or danger that she was in," said Block.

Rachel was in a drug court diversion program when she became an informant.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baronmunchiehausen; criminals; donutwatch; jbts; lawsuit; libertarians; munchies; pot; potheadalert; potheads; themunchies; wod; wosd
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To: dcwusmc
You, sir, strike me as a moron. A control-freak moron.

Armchair despots just love it when laws punish behaviors they don't like.
341 posted on 07/26/2008 12:23:48 AM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: blackbart.223
1. They feeding you meth to advocate mass murder?

2. You lose the argument when you reduce yourself to insults.

I see.

342 posted on 07/26/2008 12:23:59 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: blackbart.223
What a reasoned well thought out argument that was.

And well beyond your abilty to answer.

343 posted on 07/26/2008 12:24:57 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
"I see."

The problem is you don't.

344 posted on 07/26/2008 12:25:40 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Mojave

Good luck on this thread, I give up. The dopers can have their party.


345 posted on 07/26/2008 12:25:43 AM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: MartinStyles

Here in Chicago, cops have beaten suspects into confession of murder. That’s reality.


346 posted on 07/26/2008 12:26:52 AM PDT by endthematrix (Congress, Get Off Your Gas, And Drill!)
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To: MartinStyles

It’s fun to watch them yowl.


347 posted on 07/26/2008 12:27:53 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
"And well beyond your abilty to answer."

If you want to see Obama or Hillary look in the mirror. They both live there. If you can't figure this out shut up and stay away from me.

348 posted on 07/26/2008 12:29:53 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: dalereed
If I had my way anyone using drugs should on the spot execution.

So this is a feel-good story for you then ... break out the champagne!
349 posted on 07/26/2008 12:30:20 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: blackbart.223
If you want to see Obama or Hillary look in the mirror.

blackbart.223 in Wonderland.

350 posted on 07/26/2008 12:31:07 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: dragnet2; blackbart.223

351 posted on 07/26/2008 12:33:16 AM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: MartinStyles
"Good luck on this thread, I give up. The dopers can have their party."

I am not a "doper". I just question bad judgement. If that taints me in your eye so be it.

352 posted on 07/26/2008 12:34:19 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: bamahead

353 posted on 07/26/2008 12:35:20 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

She does something to herself, she pays the price herself. Are YOU hurt by her drug use? I sure am not. Nor is it your business or mine what she does to herself. Only what she might do to get money to feed her habit... and there are laws to punish theft and robbery already on the books. So unless you are a control freakazoid with less than two brain cells to rub together, you’d have to agree that her problem is HER problem, and NOT one that needs to be aggravated by the drug warriors. (Oh, but that IS you, isn’t it? Because you “think” it’s your business what she ingests. Like pot’s going to make her turn into a bat or something.)


354 posted on 07/26/2008 12:36:44 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: Liberty Valance
"So this is a feel-good story for you then ... break out the champagne!"

He complains about the use of english and diction but look at his.

355 posted on 07/26/2008 12:38:17 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: dcwusmc
She does something to herself, she pays the price herself.

She cut the deal, she paid the price.

356 posted on 07/26/2008 12:42:09 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: bamahead

I guess I just lost my head. He pushed the right buttons to piss me off.


357 posted on 07/26/2008 12:42:29 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Mojave

When the “representatives” step so far out of line, it becomes time for the people to take back government and shrink it to fit the chains of the Constitution. A document I doubt you’d understand much about.


358 posted on 07/26/2008 12:42:45 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc
When the “representatives” step so far out of line, it becomes time for the people to take back government

Voters oppose legalized dope,

359 posted on 07/26/2008 12:43:50 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Jones, the self-serving chief of that collection of Keystone Kops? When the D.A. was never even notified of her arrest? You want to quote that tired jackass? Even YOU should have some sort of standards. Guess you don’t, though.


360 posted on 07/26/2008 12:48:09 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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