Posted on 07/24/2008 8:00:36 AM PDT by AuntB
An alleged gang member accused of triple murder in the slayings of a San Francisco father and two sons pleaded not guilty Wednesday at a hearing in which the judge refused to issue a blanket gag order in the high-profile case.
Edwin Ramos, 21, is accused of the June 22 shooting deaths of Tony Bologna, 48, and his sons Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16, ....... Ramos spoke softly and slowly in denying each of the allegations.
The defense sought the gag order after The Chronicle revealed that Ramos was an illegal immigrant who was found to have committed two felonies at age 17 - a gang-related assault of a Muni passenger and the attempted robbery of a pregnant woman - but was not surrendered by San Francisco juvenile justice authorities to federal officials for possible deportation.
The report has triggered outrage on local and national talk shows, and Danielle Bologna said city officials "need to take responsibility" for actions that she says led to the killings of her husband and sons.
Ramos' attorney, Robert Amparan, told the court Wednesday the case was fast "becoming national media fodder" and said he was concerned about an atmosphere of "vigilantism."
He said his office has received threatening calls and that he was concerned about comments posted by readers on The Chronicle's Web site, SFGate.
According to Tim Counts, spokesman for ICE, the only communication his agency received about Ramos came by way of the electronic request at 3:44 a.m. April 2, nearly two hours after Ramos was released. He said there is no record that ICE received any fax from the Sheriff's Department.
Sheriff's deputies queried the agency by phone April 1 about the man arrested with Ramos, Erick Lopez, and an immigration hold was placed on him, Counts said.
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Mexico is the gathering point for viscious gangs of Central America illegals invading the US
I just read (AP) that Mexico will stop jailing criminal illegals within its borders. Illegals sans documents is now a minor offense, (Was once a crime punishable by 10 years in prison and deportation-—now a $100-500 fine).
There’s a method behind this madness——easing up makes it easier for criminals to get back into the US.
Mex/legislators say severe penalties is inconsistent with getting “better treatment” for Mex/immigrants in the US. Seems many of the invaders are robbed and abused by their countryman on their way north.
Speaking of the fall of the Roman Empire or any nation, Teddy Roosevelt said...
"The laws were the same as they had been
..but the people behind the laws had changed, and so the laws counted for nothing."
We also don't have a zoo!
actually it is #11, Marin is number 1, too bad you don't have a zoo. By the way, what is the problem with us going to the zoo on Sunday? or are you making that up too.
Last thread on that was just a few weeks ago. Turned out they'd put the cat on a weight loss diet ~ she was hunger as a starving tiger Fur Shur.
Marin County CA is #11 in that category with but $85,892.
Easy enough to confuse Christmas with Sunday.
Why is there no legal recourse for citizens who lose property and/or family to crime by illegals - when the illegal in question is a KNOWN criminal, yet the "authorities" do nothing, including turning them over to federal authorities (as is suppose to be the law).?
And at what point are citizens justified in taking the law into their own hands, as obviously the "authority" isn't doing its job.
It is my understanding that thug has admitted to being a passenger in the car. Of course his attorney will likely attempt to get the statement tossed.
Wonder what John McCain’s view is on this story....
/sarcasm
The only action missing from Mexico’s change in policy about jailing their criminal illegals, is a bus or plane ticket somewhere el norte. The stories of how Mexico treats their illegal aliens have been around for years.
America is being used as a global dumping ground.
Marcus Tullius Cicero Roman Statesman Speech in the Roman Senate - 42 BC:
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.
” Why is there no legal recourse for citizens who lose property and/or family to crime by illegals - when the illegal in question is a KNOWN criminal, yet the “authorities” do nothing, including turning them over to federal authorities (as is suppose to be the law).?
And at what point are citizens justified in taking the law into their own hands, as obviously the “authority” isn’t doing its job.”
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I don’t know how to answer your first question, except to say there are several parents of alien murdered children who have sued various responsible entities recently. I suppose it will take years to find how they’ll come out. Generally, public officials are held free of any stupid policy making. Our elected officials have seen to that.
At what point are citizens justified in taking charge of their government? Every day since 1776. In the end, it is our fault, not the ‘leaders’. We keep putting them there.
“The laws were the same as they had been, but the people behind the laws had changed, and so the laws counted for nothing.” - Teddy Roosevelt
“Wonder what John McCains view is on this story....”
You’d never get a reporter to even ask. Maybe he’d give his ‘God’s children’ speech.
(Chuckle), that's easy. Why would Mexican citizens have to visit their OWN consulate in order to go home? They had nothing when they came here from their hovels in that Third World hellhole. Now they got plenty of US dollars---AND THEIR GOVT WANTS A PERCENTAGE. The Mex-govt won't let the lettuce pickers back in (to retire in luxury at their beachfront condos bought with purloined US tax dollars) UNLESS THEY PAY UP AT THE CONSULATE.
Remember----the agit/prop was that they come here for a "better life" .....and in the process of flipping hamburgers, they cleaned out the US Treasury, looted SS, UI, Disability, EITC, Workmen's Comp, welfare, shut down numerous hospitals, sued everything in sight, and made big bucks selling drugs to American youth.
Not much of a zoo. There’s also the thing near Wolf Trap. Had a giant tortoise. You could go in and walk around ~ very carefully.
Driving down 19th, and seeing all the bars on the windows and doors kinda gives me the creeps.
Perfect quote for today.
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