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To: Quix; Las Vegas Dave; All

FROM ATS:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread375377/pg1

The Questions U.F.O. skeptics can’t answer

You say that you know or think that extra-terrestrial/extra-dimensional beings can’t or don’t exist, are you saying that the eyewitness to an event can’t know these things either?

Are you limiting another person’s sphere of knowledge based on your pre-existing belief on these issues?

Example: If a high ranking government official comes out and says he has first hand knowledge that these things exist, do you limit what he/she can know based on your pre-existing belief on these issues?

If a person you know to be credible comes to you and says they were visited by these beings and this person has never been known to make up stories, do you say these things could not have happened based on your personal belief about these issues? Are you saying that your friend couldn’t know and experience these things based on what you believe?

If so, how is this logical? Are you saying that nobody can know about these things because you believe these things don’t or can’t exist?

If you are, then you are limiting others sphere of knowledge based on what you believe about these issues.

posted on 26/7/2008 @ 13:18 single this post “quote”REPLY TO:

These are things they can not answer because a skeptic does not believe in UFOs, so there is no debate, no questions, no winning a debate with a debunker. They start and end with the premise that it is not true.They only exist to keep posting no! They have added a comedian in Bill NYE, as with the success of John Stewart, they need a lighter approach it seems!

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posted on 26/7/2008 @ 13:39 single this post “quote”REPLY TO:

People can not be convinced of something they don’t understand unless they experience it themselves. In this case, ET contact of UFO experiences for the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, of 5th kind.

Skeptics are skeptic because of their lack of experience in matters such as these. They have no first hand experience so they try to rationalize from their own experiences to explain to someone what they’re saying/seeing is false or that the abductee or UFO witness have mis-interpreted or mis-understood what they saw by sharing their logical explanation.

How many UFO people who you see come forward on video all say the same thing at the beginning of their sentence.

Their sentence will begin by saying “I use to be a SKEPTIC and never believed it before until I saw and experienced it with my own eyes”.

Now, that does not detract from the fact that you have people with attention issues, dis-informationist, hoaxers, skeptics and monetary interest that will use the topic for their own reason. The INDIVIDUAL will have to be the ones who will have to investigate and figure out the real experiences from fake ones.

It’s the INDIVIDUAL who will have to find the truth from themselves, and if they choose to not believe and accept the norm, then it’s just a LIMITED educational background and LIMITED life experience in these matters that make them SKEPTICS.

What makes them skeptics is when they investigate claims from people with mental issues, dis-informationist, hoaxers that make them skeptics. Probably because they looked into these claims and found nothing but being duped. They might not find interest to investigate anyone else’s claims of UFOs or Abductions because of the people who “Cry Wolf”.

So you can’t really hate the skeptics, just educate the public and the pendulum will swing the other way. Some phenomenons can’t be rationalized ro calculated. Just experienced as an individual.

So do I believe that UFO’s exist? Yes, Real ones and MAN MADE ones.

Do I believe that there are other types of ET’s out there? Yes.

Do I believe aliens are HOSTILE? No, if they wanted to take over this planet, they would have a long time ago. The only threat to humans is humans, just look at history.

We are stuck in the cosmic play pen, and if can’t behave here on this planet, what makes you think we will be able to peacefully explore space?

Think about it, when you have a baby, do you let it crawl and let it roam the living room or kitchen? Or course not. Why, because it could hurt him or herself.

Same rule applies here,

That’s my two cents.


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709 posted on 07/26/2008 9:50:51 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Quix
It’s the INDIVIDUAL who will have to find the truth from themselves, and if they choose to not believe and accept the norm, then it’s just a LIMITED educational background....

Do I believe aliens are HOSTILE? No, if they wanted to take over this planet, they would have a long time ago. The only threat to humans is humans, just look at history.

How very interesting. No mention of abductions by the "non-hostile" aliens, perhaps due to the limited educational background of the poster.

710 posted on 07/26/2008 11:44:19 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (The McCainiac's creed: Death to America by a thousand cuts)
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To: Quix; ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; albertp; andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...
Great post, yes unexplained objects are seen. One of the most studied was the photo analysis by Dr. Bruce Maccabee, (his PhD is in optics).

I believe three freepers (or their spouse) have seen a similar craft to the McMinnville photos.
CLICK HERE: A Brief History of the McMinnville Photos

Here is an an enhanced photo I took of an object over Las Vegas (from poolside at the Paris hotel/casino) 3 or 4 years ago. Note that the red glow around the object was analysed as a plasma field.

Photo enhanced

Photo without enhancement

My opinion is that the above object in the photos is something we developed. As for the McMinneville object, I doubt we had that type of technology in the 40's.

712 posted on 07/27/2008 4:05:46 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("McCain 2008- Because the other option would be unthinkable.")
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