boy you really got me! 
Posted on 07/23/2008 3:59:33 PM PDT by wagglebee
Fresno, CA (LifeNews.com) -- A California court is scheduled to hold a hearing today in a case of a disabled woman like Terri Schiavo who has been deprived of food and water for nine days. Janet Rivera lost her right to food and water on July 14 when a court-appointed guardian removed her feeding tube despite her family's wishes.
Rivera, 46, had a heart attack on February 2006 and she never regained consciousness. She has been on life support for two years
Jesus Rivera, her husband, had been his wife's conservator until June 17, when he was replaced for unknown reasons by David Hadden, the Fresno County coroner.
Jesus, according to a Fresno Bee report, wants to allow his wife to continue to receive food and water and has wants "her body to give out when it gives out between her and almighty God and no one else."
"You can't starve someone to death," he said.
Doctors disagreed and, after consulting them, Hadden decided to remove Janet Rivera's feeding tube.
According to the newspaper, Hadden's office released a statement saying he made the decision after "immense consideration" and due to Rivera's "untreatable and irreversible condition and to prevent any and all suffering that she may be enduring."
"If this were a family member of mine, I would want the decision made by the group of physicians who are taking care of this patient," he added.
In a hearing today at Fresno County Probate Court, the family will request a restraining order to allow Janet food and water until a full hearing can take place.
Rivera's family has contacted two pro-life law firms, the Alliance Defense Fund and the Life Legal Defense Fund to help them with the case and Brian Chavez-Ochoa, a Valley Springs attorney, is helping the family at no cost.
Chavez-Ochoa was an advisor in the Terri Schiavo case.
Rivera is currently admitted at the DeWitt Community Subacute Center in Fresno.
You said: There was no reason to keep that woman in a system that cost tens of thousands of dollars a year for dozens of years. That would be stupid and socially suicidal and most importantly, SELFISH. To let a person drain resources from people that need them is ridiculous and defies common sense.
LK-—Communist materialists and National Socialist idealists liquidated in excess of 100,000,000 “human animals’ for the ‘common good.’ Your reasoning sounds just like theirs.
Let us always err on the side of life.
Prepare to be lit up.
Terri did NOT get the rehabilitation she needed, because her “loving, faithful husband” did NOT want her to improve—he just wanted her to DIE.
I guess I am one of those “pro-lifers” who as you say, “lost a lot of credibility” in 2005 over the schiavo case. I do NOT know how you can come to such a conclusion like that—It would seem to ME that “pro-lifers” would “lose credibility IF we had said “PULL THE PLUG” As YOU wanted—and got .
I just wonder—if it was YOU—would YOU want a CORONER to decide when YOU should be caused to die of thirst??
Read my poem.. maybe it will make you think a bit.
Remember THREE things:: (1--this woman is NOT "terminally ill, and suffering, or unable to swallow on her own. we are NOT talking about IV feeding or a "breathing machine"..
(2--the husband and FAMILY do NOT want her to die--the DOCTOR and CORONER feel they can decide her fate!!
(3--First they came for the Jews....
Its not just Terri, we’re talking about the principle of the issue. A principle that “Pro-Lifers” have defended with no flexibility. When Terri’s autopsy was done, there was little brain function and her body was found to be acting like a resource consuming machine with absolutely no mental comprehension. If she was properly rehabilitated and her brain didn’t go to mush then pulling the plug would have been murder, but thats not the case.
you know - you really ought to read up on your subject matter prior to spewing such ignorant garbage among people who followed this case closely for many years.
Because you are addressing people who are well aware of the fact that Terri was awarded a substantial amount of money for the purpose of her basic care and rehabilitation.
Why don’t you take some time, do a little research, and then come back and try again?
“When Terri’s autopsy was done, there was little brain function and her body was found to be acting like a resource consuming machine with absolutely no mental comprehension.”
Uh huh.
Could you please point us to the part in the autopsy where it says what you claim?
Are you aware of what a functional MRI is?
Are you aware Terri never had the benefit of receiving one?
Exactly, we ARE inflexible when it comes to the taking of innocent life.
When Terri’s autopsy was done, there was little brain function and her body was found to be acting like a resource consuming machine with absolutely no mental comprehension.
FALSE!
Please explain how she experienced "euphoria" if she had no brain function. If she was properly rehabilitated and her brain didn’t go to mush then pulling the plug would have been murder, but thats not the case.
You are half right, her estranged, abusive and adulterous "husband" spent over a $500,000 of HER MONEY killing her, this money was SPECIFICALLY for rehabilitation.
However, there was no "plug" to pull. She was starved and dehydrated to death, YOU wouldn't have fared any better after 13 days without food and water.
ok....
So now coronors can order dehydration.
That’s even worse than relying on Judge Greer.
I didn’t forget about the details, I accused the husband of the ultimate offense. He was an evil man for not using that trust fund to properly rehabilitate Terri so that she could walk, eat on her own and possibly keep the mind of a 4 year old. Because of his neglect, her mind went to mush. Maybe because of this scenario Terri should have been kept alive, but from the way Pro-Lifers put it all cases like this are murder and there is no exception.
“Because of his neglect, her mind went to mush.”
LOL!
You are a hoot!
Are you ever going to show us proof Terri’s mind was “mush”?
boy you really got me!
That is a CT scan.
That is not a functional MRI.
Now..would you like to expound for us what you see in the images you posted?
Yep, they aren't even hiding their motives anymore.
Doctors approve of this method in extreme cases like Terri’s and it doesn’t take a doctor to see the huge black space! You think this is a big conspiracy or something?
What happened to “it’s wrong for the government to interfere with the family’s decision?”
Not if the government or an insurance company is paying the bill... I agree Terri’s case was different and her husband should have been arrested for neglect while we pulled he plug.
Since you are brand new here you might not be aware that Free Republic is a PRO-LIFE CONSERVATIVE forum and, just like the woman in this article the owner of Free Republic also lives in Fresno, California and he is also disabled.
When he was in the VA hospital a couple months ago should they have simply concluded that it would cost the taxpayers "tens of thousands of dollars a year" to care for him?
For the culture of death it's all about killing as many as possible, EVERY other argument is a red herring.
OK, so you must know more than many doctors who disagree?
Such as this one?
http://codeblueblog.blogs.com/codeblueblog/2005/03/csi_medblogs_co.html
“Doctors approve of this method in extreme cases like Terri’s “
There are doctors who approve of late term abortions and even infanticide.
Your point?
“it doesn’t take a doctor to see the huge black space! “
Tell me what you see, why you think it deserves your characterization of “mush”, and why you think it justifies dehydrating someone to death.
“You think this is a big conspiracy or something?”
I think it is a matter of getting rid of people who have become inconvenient.
A utilitarian view of human life.
PVS is misdiagnosed 40-45% of the time.
It is a subjective diagnosis that experts themselves cannot agree on criteria.
Recent developments show the experts know less about the brain than previously thought.
Studies using functional MRIs indicate more brain activity than previously thought.
There are many who want to assume they know everything in order to justify exterminating the helpless.
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