[kempo]

Let me tell you where numbers don't lie. The stock market. They know exactly how many units are produced. You can’t hide that. Now as far as waving I've been a Honda rider, a Yamaha rider, a BMW rider, and a Harley rider. I wave at everyone and everyone waves at me on all of the above motorcycles. It must be you they don't want to wave at.

[Spktyr]

Produced? Yes.

Sold? No.

Gone are the days when Harleys commanded waiting lists. The local Harley dealers, when last I heard, had started having lots of backstock of bikes.

It’s like Microsoft with Vista and the Zune. Sure, they made a lot and shipped a lot... but the numbers of them appearing in the wild don’t seem to add up.