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Challenging the basis of Kyoto Protocol
The Hindu ^ | 10 July, 2008 | Vladimir Radyuhin

Posted on 07/20/2008 7:30:25 PM PDT by Roy Tucker

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Any nation that signs up for Kyoto has either got its fingers crossed or is headed for economic retardation. Notice the Indians and the Chinese have no intention to sign on to CO2 restrictions.
1 posted on 07/20/2008 7:30:26 PM PDT by Roy Tucker
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Academician Kapitsa denounced the Kyoto Protocol as “the biggest ever scientific fraud.”

Unlike the American Press, the Russians seem to get it.

2 posted on 07/20/2008 7:35:25 PM PDT by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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Any liberals who don't immediately reduce their "carbon emissions" to (personal) Kyoto levels are flat-out hypocrites.

This includes Al Gore.

3 posted on 07/20/2008 7:37:38 PM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters!)
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Thanks for posting this. At least the Russian scientists aren’t afraid to speak out.

In the West, you have to tie your research to global warming to get funding. And you are ridiculed if you express skepticism about the global warming theory.


4 posted on 07/20/2008 7:38:47 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Clint Williams

* Make all “carbon credit” scams unlawful. Discrediting Algore should have been a slam-dunk a long time ago. Stop electing Reps who buy into the Global Warming / Global Cooling / Climate Change Hoax. CO2 is not our enemy!


5 posted on 07/20/2008 7:39:00 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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"Challenging the basis of Kyoto Protocol"

Gospel Of Gore

P.O. Al Gore

6 posted on 07/20/2008 7:43:51 PM PDT by musicman
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To: Flycatcher

It is interesting that Putin has belatedly signed up for Kyoto, but since the CO2 emissions levels were set at 1991 levels when the Soviet Union was collapsing, I am not sure how much of a burden that puts on Russia.


7 posted on 07/20/2008 7:44:09 PM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: SERKIT

Amen, brother.


8 posted on 07/20/2008 7:47:07 PM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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In the West, you have to tie your research to global warming to get funding. And you are ridiculed if you express skepticism about the global warming theory.

Worse than that, you are accused of being in the pay of Big Oil. As if being in the pay of statist government grant money was considerably nobler.

9 posted on 07/20/2008 7:49:03 PM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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I believe the article suggests that Putin signed Kyoto for political purposes only. The article also states that the 1991 Russian carbon levels can be sustained until (at least) 2017.

Shrewd politician, that Putin...

VERY interesting article.

10 posted on 07/20/2008 7:49:39 PM PDT by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: Flycatcher

Very shrewd.


11 posted on 07/20/2008 7:50:26 PM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: Flycatcher

mega-dittoes


12 posted on 07/20/2008 7:54:54 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Roy Tucker; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; CygnusXI; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; WL-law; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

13 posted on 07/20/2008 7:55:23 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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How much CO2 was pumped into the atmosphere during WWII. Best I remember the Germans suffered quite a defeat in Russia due to cold weather.

Old patriotic song “They’ll be smoke on the waters, on the land and the sea. When the Army and the Navy overtake the enemy”. Thank God we were not having to purchase Al Gore's carbon credits back then - all of Hollywood would have to have been on the Bond Drive to pay the fool.

14 posted on 07/20/2008 7:55:58 PM PDT by CHEE (Stink, Steam and All)
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...well, I think we need to pass a law forcing the Russians to comply.

(/sarcasm)


15 posted on 07/20/2008 8:18:04 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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India Issues Report Challenging Global Warming Fears: Vows Not To Reduce Emissions

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2043120/posts

 

The Washington Post reported on July 9 that India was “balking” at the U.S approach to addressing CO2 emissions. India joined four other nations to call for “much steeper reductions” for developed nations.

Fact: India issued its National Action Plan on Climate Change in June 2008 disputing man-made global warming fears and declared the country of one billion people had no intention of stopping its energy growth or cutting back its CO2 emissions.

An article in the Australian Herald on July 9 by Andrew Bolt, noted: “The plan's authors, the Prime Minister's Council on Climate Change, said India would rather save its people from poverty than global warming, and would not cut growth to cut gases.”

The report declared: “No firm link between the documented [climate] changes described below and warming due to anthropogenic climate change has yet been established.”

The report made clear that India has no plans to cut back energy usage. “It is obvious that India needs to substantially increase its per capita energy consumption to provide a minimally acceptable level of wellbeing to its people. […] India is determined that its per capita greenhouse gas emissions will at no point exceed that of developed countries."

The Australian Herald article noted that this declaration “means India won't stop its per capita emissions (now at 1.02 tonnes) from growing until they match those of countries such as the US (now 20 tonnes).”

The Australian Herald article continued: “What makes the Indian report so interesting is that unlike our (Australia’s) Ross Garnaut, who just accepted the word of those scientists wailing we faced doom, the Indian experts went to the trouble to check what the climate was actually doing and why. Their conclusion? They couldn't actually find anything bad in India that was caused by man-made warming. In fact, they couldn't find much change in the climate at all. Yes, India's surface temperature over a century had inched up by 0.4 degrees, but there had been no change in trends for large-scale droughts, floods, or rain: ‘The observed monsoon rainfall at the all-India level does not show any significant trend . . .’ It even dismissed the panic Al Gore helped to whip up about melting Himalayan glaciers: ‘While recession of some glaciers has occurred in some Himalayan regions in recent years, the trend is not consistent across the entire mountain chain. It is, accordingly, too early to establish long-term trends, or their causation, in respect of which there are several hypotheses.’

In addition, in January 2008, Indian engineer and economist Rajendra Pachauri, who is the UN IPCC Chairman, announced that he was going “to look into the apparent temperature plateau so far this century.” (LINK) [Note: Global temperatures have not risen since 1998, according to UN data. See: 'Global Warming Will Stop,' New Peer-Reviewed Study Says ]

Sampling of Indian Scientists Who Question Man-Made Global Warming Fears: ( See also: U.S. Senate Minority Report: “Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007” )

One of India's leading geologists, B.P. Radhakrishna, President of the Geological Society of India, expressed man-made global warming skepticism in 2007. "We appear to be overplaying this global warming issue as global warming is nothing new. It has happened in the past, not once but several times, giving rise to glacial-interglacial cycles. We appear to be now only in the middle of an interglacial cycle showing a trend toward warming as warming and cooling are global and have occurred on such a scale when humans had not appeared on the planet,” Radhakrishna wrote in an August 23, 2007 essay. Radhakrishna said that there is doubt about “whether the steps that are proposed to be taken to reduce carbon emission will really bring down the carbon dioxide level in the atmosphere and whether such attempts, even carried out on a global scale, will produce the desired effect. Warming of the climate, melting of glaciers, rise in sea levels and other marked changes in climate - these do not pose immediate threats and there is besides, no way of controlling such changes even if we want to. Exercises at mitigation of these likely disasters are, however, possible and mankind, in all likelihood, will gradually adjust itself to the changed conditions. This has happened before; men and animals have moved to greener pastures and adapted themselves to the changed situations," he added. (LINK)

VK Raina, India's leading Glaciologist, questioned the assertion that global warming was melting glaciers in India. "Claims of global warming causing glacial melt in the Himalayas are based on wrong assumptions," Raina told the Hindustan Times on February 11, 2007. The paper continued, "Raina told the Hindustan Times that out of 9,575 glaciers in India, till date, research has been conducted only on about 50. Nearly 200 years data has shown that nothing abnormal has occurred in any of these glaciers. It is simple. The issue of glacial retreat is being sensationalized by a few individuals, the septuagenarian Raina claimed. Throwing a gauntlet to the alarmist, he said the issue should be debated threadbare before drawing a conclusion." (LINK)

Related Links:

Cooling Underway: Global Temperature Continues to Drop in May – June 4, 2008

'Global Warming Will Stop,' New Peer-Reviewed Study Says – April 30, 2008

Global COOLING Currently Under Way – February 27, 2008

U.S Army Chief Scientist Says Sun, Not Man, Is Causing Climate Change – June 3, 2008

National Post: Global Cooling! 'Spotless Sun' prompts scientists to fear 'dramatic turn for the worse' – May 31, 2008

U.S. Senate Minority Report: “Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007”

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16 posted on 07/20/2008 8:31:21 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Flycatcher

It’s nuts, but the Russians seem to get a lot of things the US and the West are absolutely clueless over.

And then there’s the iron fist of Putin...


17 posted on 07/20/2008 8:57:08 PM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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Meanwhile, the U.S. EPA proceeds with plans to regulate every breath we take in the name of combatting global warming, apparently utterly oblivious to the recent spate of opposition articles and analyses such as this one from the Russians.
We need to undertake a massive letter writing campaign to our congressional representatives and the Chief of the EPA.


18 posted on 07/20/2008 9:35:07 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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There has always been a lot of skepticism toward GW among the Russian scientific community. They signed Kyoto only because they stood to make billions as a receiver nation.

My thought is that Russia stands to benefit from the defrosting of a huge amount of it's territory in Siberia. If they can actually figure a way to access it, they could end up with a massive agricultural heartland. They know the climate is warming and figure it isn't human caused, but way take a the chance that it is? While everyone else loses their coasts, they gain a heartland.

19 posted on 07/20/2008 10:12:03 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Elsiejay

You put your finger on it. Carbon emission restrictions are all about: (a)shackling the US economy and (b)control by the Government of our individual economic activities.

This is one of the strategic issues Dubya got right. It is too bad both major party candidates have bought the AGW ruse hook, line and sinker.


20 posted on 07/20/2008 10:47:30 PM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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