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Obama's Choice of (new) Site for Speech Splits Germans (Ich Bin Ein Dummkopf)
International Herald Tribune ^ | Sunday, July 20, 2008 | Judy Dempsey

Posted on 07/20/2008 10:13:42 AM PDT by kristinn

BERLIN: The decision by Senator Barack Obama to speak at a landmark monument in Berlin this Thursday has opened up yet another controversy, with conservative and opposition politicians saying the site recalls Germany's Nazi past and Prussia's militaristic tradition.

Obama is planning to address what organizers expect will be huge crowds at the Siegessäule, or Victory Column, which is located in the center of a long and busy intersection that straddles the lush, public Tiergarten gardens and stretches up to the Brandenburg Gate.

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After days of back and forth between the chancellery and the Obama campaign, the Victory Column was selected.

But Andreas Schockenhoff, deputy leader of the conservative bloc in Parliament, said Sunday that the choice of the Victory Column, also known as the Golden Angel, was an "unhappy symbol" since it represented so much of Germany's militaristic past.

Rainer Brüderle, deputy leader of the opposition Free Democrats, said Obama's advisers had little idea of the historical significance of the Victory Column. "It was the symbol of German superiority over Denmark, Austria and France," Brüderle told the newspaper Bild am Sonntag.

The monument was built in 1864 to commemorate Prussia's victory over Denmark. When it was inaugurated, Prussia had defeated Austria during the Austro-Prussian war in 1866 and the Franco-Prussian war of 1870-71.

The column has been originally located near the Reichstag, now the Bundestag, or German Parliament, which is close to the Brandenburg Gate. But Adolf Hitler relocated it about two kilometers, or one mile, toward the western part of the city to the Grosser Stern, or Great Star.

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; blueturban; communist; gaffe; germanhistory; heilobama; hitler; nazi; obama; obamasbigadventure; obamavisit; redbrowngreenaxis; victorycolumn
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To: RoseofTexas

Rose this may be a slap to the Jewish community, but they will vote for him anyway. I do not see them changing their voting ways. Dumkopfs, alle.


41 posted on 07/20/2008 12:02:09 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: Kozak

I’m kinda surprised that the messiah didn’t choose to hold a rally in Nuremburg.

Just swap out the swastikas for some donkeys and he has the perfect venue for a dry run of his outdoor acceptance speech in Denver.


42 posted on 07/20/2008 12:28:00 PM PDT by Nasher (BHO: His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: Himself!)
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To: tillacum
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43 posted on 07/20/2008 12:31:02 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: kristinn

Is it really big enough and important enough for The Obama?

44 posted on 07/20/2008 12:53:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
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To: XeniaSt

What’s the German for “tater salad?”


45 posted on 07/20/2008 12:59:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
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To: skimbell

You’re right...Charles got it from the cartoon. ;)


46 posted on 07/20/2008 1:17:50 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: TigersEye

Gee, those Democratic Socialist Womyn are gonna have a fit over this one... First the Obama machine tears Hillary a new one, and now Obama’s going to make an Important Speech directly in front of a huge phallic symbol...


47 posted on 07/20/2008 1:20:34 PM PDT by Zeppo (Every mighty mild... seventies child... Beats me (Metric - Combat Baby))
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To: Zeppo

Larry Sinclair says it’s overstated. /s


48 posted on 07/20/2008 1:24:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
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To: TigersEye
LOL

49 posted on 07/20/2008 1:28:23 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: alecqss

The Siegessäule — or Victory Column — was erected in memory of Prussia’s victories over Denmark (1864), Austria (1866) and France (1870/71). The column originally stood in front of the Reichstag, Germany’s parliament building, but was moved by Adolf Hitler to its current location in 1939 to make way for his planned transformation of Berlin into the Nazi capital “Germania.”

“The Siegessäule in Berlin was moved to where it is now by Adolf Hitler. He saw it as a symbol of German superiority and of the victorious wars against Denmark, Austria and France,” the deputy leader of the Free Democrats, Rainer Brüderle, told Bild am Sonntag. He raised the question as to “whether Barack Obama was advised correctly in his choice of the Siegessäule as the site to hold a speech on his vision for a more cooperative world.”

At least he didn’t hold it in Nuremberg by torchlight.


50 posted on 07/20/2008 1:44:36 PM PDT by WilliamReading
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To: XeniaSt

Ich bin ein kartoffelsalat!


51 posted on 07/20/2008 2:02:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
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To: Blogger
Youth 4 Obama (formerly Obama Youth)
52 posted on 07/20/2008 2:10:44 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: kristinn

Zomeone cxeck witz zee Koran, I beleaff zare ezz a passage about zee “Golden Anchelle” comink before zee last caliph.

Ezz it here: http://www.truthnet.org/islam/src-chp5.htm

Ezz is here: http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/

I cannot find eet.


53 posted on 07/20/2008 2:13:22 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (http://auntiecoosa.blogspot.com -- read, learn, blog, or get out of my way.)
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To: TigersEye
Ich bin ein kartoffelsalat!

Ja !


54 posted on 07/20/2008 2:15:25 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: kristinn

Are we really surprised that Obama doesn’t know history? /s


55 posted on 07/20/2008 2:18:58 PM PDT by imskylark
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To: Blogger

“What’s next, the Obama Youth?”

Yes. Obama is already planning for it.


56 posted on 07/20/2008 2:20:16 PM PDT by imskylark
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To: stainlessbanner

“Already done: Kids for Obama”

deeply disturbing.


57 posted on 07/20/2008 2:22:01 PM PDT by imskylark
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To: TigersEye
I like Ich bin ein wassermelone!
58 posted on 07/20/2008 2:22:13 PM PDT by Zman516 (socialists & muslims -- satan's useful idiots.)
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To: Zman516
LOL

Ich bin ein leer Anzug.

59 posted on 07/20/2008 2:35:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
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To: Stentor

Wie grauenhaft


60 posted on 07/20/2008 5:31:25 PM PDT by Blogger
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