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Never surrender: Three-star general releases book
The Fayetteville Observer ^ | July 19, 2008 | Henry Cuningham

Posted on 07/19/2008 5:57:10 AM PDT by DJ Taylor

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General Boykin became one of our country's first military casualties in the "War on Terror" when he did his job and had the audacity to posively identify Islam as the enemy trying to destroy us and our way of life. http://www.globalspecialoperations.com/defense.html
1 posted on 07/19/2008 5:57:10 AM PDT by DJ Taylor
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To: DJ Taylor

If only politicians had Gen Boykin’s integrity.


2 posted on 07/19/2008 6:27:16 AM PDT by EverOnward
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To: EverOnward

There is a special place in American history and heaven for these heroes. God bless you General.


3 posted on 07/19/2008 7:04:12 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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If only politicians had Gen Boykin’s integrity

'Integrity' and 'politician' do not go together.

4 posted on 07/19/2008 7:11:02 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Just your average "Whitey" - bitterly clinging to my guns and religion.)
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if one of these things had a crush on some guy in your squad, in an emergency, would he sacrifice you and or the whole squad to save him???
5 posted on 07/19/2008 7:14:29 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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If one had a crush on you, as a team-member, would he sacrifice himself to save you? Just a thought....


6 posted on 07/19/2008 7:29:23 AM PDT by tarawa
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To: tarawa
same situation with me as the example results in, if they would for any other given example, then i would say yes.

and i would prolly kill them for it tooo...

7 posted on 07/19/2008 7:38:02 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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“if one of these things had a crush on some guy in your squad, in an emergency, would he sacrifice you and or the whole squad to save him???”

For this reason, it’s never a good idea to have females or close family members serving together with men in combat units. If you’re interested in the subject, I once wrote about it and the story can be found at: http://www.projectdelta.net/dry_hole.htm


8 posted on 07/19/2008 7:50:41 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: ASA Vet

PING


9 posted on 07/19/2008 8:04:44 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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He became a casualty of his own mouth when he told a church gathering in Sandy, Ore., that foes like bin Laden and Hussein “will only be defeated if we come against them in the name of Jesus.”

He was a 3-star general. He knew, or should have known it was way beyond the pale. If he wanted to be a preacher, he should have retired.


10 posted on 07/19/2008 8:13:20 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: DJ Taylor
agree 100%.
11 posted on 07/19/2008 8:16:12 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: DJ Taylor
Outstanding Link!!! Bookmarked.
12 posted on 07/19/2008 8:20:43 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: DJ Taylor

Gen.Boykin BUMP!


13 posted on 07/19/2008 8:34:08 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: PurpleMan

So, once he took on the uniform he gave up all right to speak his mind? What of the First Amendment?

Maybe there /is/ wisdom to the words: if we can’t win the spiritual and character battle, then how can we win this long term war spanning decades?

Should he be ashamed of his faith during the fight?

Mark 8
37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

Just as it would be cowardly to hide away in a place of safety in a fire-fight while your buddies are being slaughtered in the open, so too is it cowardly to keep quiet when words of encouragement cry out to be spoken.

> If he wanted to be a preacher, he should have retired.

PurpleMan, your counsel is not good at this time.

If a man cannot speak at a church gathering in the United States of America, just where can he speak? Mutter inaudibly to himself while hiding trembling in a closet?

You hide your faith away if you will, if you have any; I must stand steadfast and unashamed even if no one else will stand with me.


14 posted on 07/19/2008 10:02:39 AM PDT by mbj (Citizen of the United States of America)
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"If he wanted to be a preacher, he should have retired."

I, sir, have bled to preserve the right for the General to speak freely and without fear of reprisal from those such as you. Have you bled to preserve your right to belittle better men than yourself? If you haven't, then you should thank the General for doing it for you.

15 posted on 07/19/2008 10:19:48 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: mbj

hello! Hello! HELLO!!!!!!!

It’s not about his adherence to his “biblical” principles, it’s about a commissioned officer using his rank and position making a religious policy statement. That’s not what uniformed people do. The constitutionally devised civilian control of the military implies that you DON’T establish policy and that if you don’t believe in the policies of those over you, can’t follow the orders, or you can’t keep ypu yap shut, then get the hell out. Besides, how much did his “this is a fight for Jesus” crap result in insulting behavior of soldiers towards Muslims? I dare say more than you are aware of.

“it cowardly to keep quiet when words of encouragement cry out to be spoken.” It’s inappropriate for him to have been publicly running off at the mouth about his specific religious principles.


16 posted on 07/19/2008 10:24:50 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan

Hear, hear!


17 posted on 07/19/2008 10:30:22 AM PDT by stormer
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To: DJ Taylor

The IG reports said that on more than 20 different occasions Boykin 1) Per DoD Directives and Army regulations failed to have his speeches appropriately cleared for thru security and public affairs; 2) Per DoD’s Joint Ethics Regulations he failed, on numerous occasions to issue the required disclaimer.

He knew he wasn’t supposed to do what he did, and he a Lt General w/ over 33 years in the Army, chose to violate Army and Joint regulations. He should have been shown the door.

Read the IG report for yourself.
http://www.dodig.osd.mil/fo/Foia/ERR/h03l89967206.pdf


18 posted on 07/19/2008 10:41:50 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: tarawa
my bad, read that wrong. in that case, he shouldn't of been there in the first place.
19 posted on 07/19/2008 10:48:45 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: DJ Taylor
That's some great writing, Sergeant. I've bookmarked it to go back and read the other articles. I was not SF, but it has brought back a lot of memories of those days and that place.

Thanks for sharing it.

20 posted on 07/19/2008 11:15:32 AM PDT by Gritty (Permanence is the illusion of every age - Mark Steyn)
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