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To: mbj

hello! Hello! HELLO!!!!!!!

It’s not about his adherence to his “biblical” principles, it’s about a commissioned officer using his rank and position making a religious policy statement. That’s not what uniformed people do. The constitutionally devised civilian control of the military implies that you DON’T establish policy and that if you don’t believe in the policies of those over you, can’t follow the orders, or you can’t keep ypu yap shut, then get the hell out. Besides, how much did his “this is a fight for Jesus” crap result in insulting behavior of soldiers towards Muslims? I dare say more than you are aware of.

“it cowardly to keep quiet when words of encouragement cry out to be spoken.” It’s inappropriate for him to have been publicly running off at the mouth about his specific religious principles.


16 posted on 07/19/2008 10:24:50 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan

Hear, hear!


17 posted on 07/19/2008 10:30:22 AM PDT by stormer
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To: PurpleMan

> It’s not about his adherence to his “biblical” principles

Oh yes, it /is/ about a man sticking to the principles he believes in. Note the setting: he was at church, not at a press conference.

> The constitutionally devised civilian control

Civilian control never did extend to mind control, until perhaps relatively recently in this nation’s history.

> can’t follow the orders

Well, would you have been a “good soldier” and just followed orders in Auschwitz? There are orders, and there is conscience. We don’t train our men to be blind robots, do we?

Our military warriors aren’t mindless automatons that mechanically do whatever you want them to do.

> Keep your yap shut

Thankfully, you can’t make us do that unless you take physical action. Paraphrasing what the Greeks say, come and try to take our God-given right. It is every man’s duty to point out that public policy doesn’t, cannot, ever override free moral conscience.

Col 3
17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

If a Christian were to be ashamed of the name of Christ, or defending the nation in the name of Christ, then they are either not a very strong Christian or they are doing something in violation of their conscience. A Christian must do all things in the name of the Lord.

> insulting behavior of soldiers towards Muslims?

Let the followers of Islam serve the country in the name of their God if they will; this should not prevent any Christian from saying he should strive to do all things for his God.

I can certainly say that I personally haven’t been impressed with the hate-filled and lustful behavior that I’ve seen from Osama Bin Laden’s followers. Maybe we need Muslim warriors to stand up and be counted; maybe they need to fight against the wicked on behalf of the name of Allah.

Muslims would understand me when I say that as a follower of the Father and of Christ, I do not believe in “Allah”, nor do I agree with the supremacy of the Sharia over our nation’s laws. I do not expect them to hold my faith, and on my part I have no intention to destroy or cause any harm those on our nation’s side. I will uphold their right to practice their religion in their mosques as long as no one tries to *force* any of it on us. If their religion is a great one, then let them ~convince~ us on the basis of merit: no man has the right to stifle my freedom of speech. Let them convince on behalf of their own God as they will!

If a falsely so-called “Christian” nation is ashamed to contend in the name of the only one Creator, then maybe they no longer deserve to be preserved by the same?

If any nation fails to preserve its own principles, the principles upon which the nation was built, then they deserve to be destroyed.

Your counsel is not good at this time, PurpleMan.


22 posted on 07/19/2008 1:05:29 PM PDT by mbj (Citizen of the United States of America)
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To: PurpleMan

It’s assholes like you who would have fired General Patton. Are you Beadle Smith’s Grandson?


24 posted on 07/19/2008 2:41:05 PM PDT by ohioman
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