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You guys need to show a little more respect for the Pope. He isn't just some politician jumping on the environmental bandwagon for political gain. Rampant consumerism and materialism are still bad things even if you don't believe in global warming.

And if you're Catholic, and find yourself disagreeing with the Pope, then you might consider that it is you who need to change, not him.

22 posted on 07/17/2008 1:01:52 PM PDT by chihiro
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To: chihiro
And if you're Catholic, and find yourself disagreeing with the Pope, then you might consider that it is you who need to change, not him.

Unless the Pope is speaking Ex cathedra, all bets are off. I can understand respecting the office, but when the Pope jumps into the world of economics and environmentalism he's stepping way outside the bounds of infallibility.

23 posted on 07/17/2008 1:18:08 PM PDT by Tao Yin (Hey, this thread isn't ecumenical)
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“You guys need to show a little more respect for the Pope.”

If he makes statements like this, he should expect criticism. That is not disrespect. I have said on this board that I don't care for the Catholic church because of some of its liberal positions, and this is one more example of why I don't. The Pope made a very liberal statement with this. He deserves criticism.

I believe in freedom. If people want materialism, that is their choice. I fight it every day in my own life (try not to get sucked into buying bigger and more than I need). But I am not going to use the government to do it, and I do not think it is a good idea for a religious leader to be supporting the Marxist position.

24 posted on 07/17/2008 1:20:14 PM PDT by HwyChile
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And if you're Catholic, and find yourself disagreeing with the Pope, then you might consider that it is you who need to change, not him.

Whether you are catholic or not and you find yourself disagreeing with the Pope, then you might also consider that you are right, and that he can be wrong.

30 posted on 07/17/2008 1:40:41 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (If the opposite of Pro is Con, what is the opposite of Progress? -- Tom Glennon)
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I agree with you. I applaud the Pope (and any religious leader) for encouraging us to be wise stewards of the earth and treat it with respect, as it was created by God for us.

One doesn’t need to subscribe to the man-made global warming myth to be a conscientious conservationist.


48 posted on 07/17/2008 2:15:38 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (We'll wait until 2015, when a magic engine that runs on unicorn flatulence is invented. -- Lileks)
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But why would the Pope come out in favor of some of the most important false propaganda currently advanced by the Marxists—envirowackism—especially at a time when the level of credibility of anthropogenic global warming theory is beginning to crumble?


63 posted on 07/17/2008 3:02:00 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Liberalism is service to the self disguised as service to others.)
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