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Pope says young inheriting scarred, squandered earth (FRom Down Under - Sydney, Australia)
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 7/17/08 | Philip Pullella

Posted on 07/17/2008 12:08:33 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge
"Reluctantly we come to acknowledge that there are also scars which mark the surface of our earth, erosion, deforestation, the squandering of the world's mineral and ocean resources in order to fuel an insatiable consumption," he told the cheering crowd.

Oh, please.

61 posted on 07/17/2008 3:00:07 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Trust me...I know what I'm doing.)
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To: chihiro
I think I'll leave it up to the Pope to decide what his message should be.

I gathered you would.

Not me. If he's preaching stuff not good for people (like a Pelosi message for example) I notice.

62 posted on 07/17/2008 3:01:15 PM PDT by what's up
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To: chihiro

But why would the Pope come out in favor of some of the most important false propaganda currently advanced by the Marxists—envirowackism—especially at a time when the level of credibility of anthropogenic global warming theory is beginning to crumble?


63 posted on 07/17/2008 3:02:00 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Liberalism is service to the self disguised as service to others.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

He trowels it on pretty good.. but it still don’t stick.

squandering is part of the human thing, like it or not. not that it has much of an effect in the long run cosmically.


64 posted on 07/17/2008 3:04:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: chihiro
“You just stated that Pope Benedict supports a Marxist position. You should retract that. Pope Benedict is not calling for the end of freedom. He is encouraging the world to not buy into rampant materialism.”

I do not think the Pope understands that his position is the Marxist position. He is being politically correct and spouting off when he really does not understand what he is talking about. His statements are exactly like the left and support the left. If you do not see or understand that, then you don't really understand the left’s talking points and ideological agenda and how he is spouting off their talking points.

65 posted on 07/17/2008 3:16:38 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: chihiro
“Asking people to not worship material goods is not being anti-capitalist.”

That is not what he is saying. His message was we are damaging the earth by being consumers. It is an environmental BS message. His comment is right in line with Obama: we can no longer have our air conditioners on 72 degrees and eat what we want and expect the world to be ok with it.

66 posted on 07/17/2008 3:22:08 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: NormsRevenge
The Pope is very much out of touch here. The recent discovery of what are called "Super Atoms" holds the promise of enabling us to turn rubbish piles, dirt, salt and sand into incredible materials that can replace every element on the periodic table. See:

Super atoms turn periodic table upside down: ..http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080701092153.htm

Small, But Super   http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/32948/title/Small,_But_Super

 

 

 

67 posted on 07/17/2008 3:37:29 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: NormsRevenge

The Catholic Pope is preaching a religion far different than that of Jesus Christ. Just what does ‘global warming’ have to do with the salvation of souls? Leave this phony baloney to Al Gore.


68 posted on 07/17/2008 3:50:48 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: DoughtyOne

The green lefties would have us greatly diminished and living like primitive tribes. They don’t seem to want to practice what they preach, either. (i.e., Al Gore) Now we have the Pope, who is supposed to be the leader of the Catholic church first and foremost rather than using his power as the head of the Vatican nation, on a Traveling Salvation Show.

Trouble is, he’s apparently not interested in God’s promise of eternal (spiritual) life through Jesus Christ; he seems to be much more interested in ‘saving the earth’. Doesn’t he read the Bible?


69 posted on 07/17/2008 4:01:55 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: avenir

“... The Pope should be hammering his audiences with their need for Christ and let lesser issues go. Mankind needs Jesus, not a cleaner earth.”

Exactly. Besides he isn’t a scientist and he is only polluting the air with more stinking green rhetoric.


70 posted on 07/17/2008 4:17:39 PM PDT by biscuit jane
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To: fooman

“Perhaps reluctantly we come to acknowledge,” he said, “that there are also scars which mark the surface of our earth: erosion, deforestation, the squandering of the world’s mineral and ocean resources in order to fuel an insatiable consumption.” He then continued: “And we discover that not only the natural but also the social environment - the habitat we fashion for ourselves - has its scars; wounds indicating that something is amiss.”

He noted problems, such as “alcohol and drug abuse, and the exaltation of violence and sexual degradation, often presented through television and the internet as entertainment.”

The Holy Father returned to the theme of the “social environment” in the powerful conclusion to his remarks. He said: “But what of our social environment? Are we equally alert to the signs of turning our back on the moral structure with which God has endowed humanity? Do we recognize that the innate dignity of every individual rests on his or her deepest identity - as image of the Creator - and therefore that human rights are universal, based on the natural law, and not something dependent upon negotiation or patronage, let alone compromise?”

In the end, Pope Benedict offered a summary statement, which cuts to the heart of the liberal vs. faithful Catholic debate. While left-leaning Catholics do concern themselves with important ‘social justice’ issues, they eschew or minimize fighting for the right to life of the unborn, equating abortion with unemployment, poverty or environmentally damaging mining practices.

Faithful Catholics, however, while recognizing the importance of caring for the poor, the environment and peace, understand that the right to life is preeminent.

“The concerns for non-violence, sustainable development, justice and peace, and care for our environment are of vital importance for humanity. They cannot, however, be understood apart from a profound reflection upon the innate dignity of every human life from conception to natural death: a dignity conferred by God himself and thus inviolable,” he said.


Well fooman, if you read the speech in context, your freeper friends are correct. The Pope was actually using this as a tie-in so as to NOT trump the sanctity of life by the enviro stuff..


71 posted on 07/17/2008 5:17:54 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: chihiro
The common sense part tells me that a new Cadillac Escalade rolling on 22s is unchecked materialism. More generally, defining yourself by how expensive your car is, or how big your house is, shows an unhealthy attachment to material goods.

That makes a lot of sense -- if wered defining what one should possess no more than he actually needs. But the man preaching it doesn't exactly live in two rooms and a bath or ride around in a volkswagon bug: which, if you think about it, is quite adequate for a single man his age. And how about the Cardinals -- the "Princes of the Church?" In my mind,same should apply to them, shouldn't it? And so on down the line. I am not saying that in any way to be bashing -- only to again ask -- where does this evil over comsumption start, and who sets that line?

72 posted on 07/17/2008 5:24:06 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (If the opposite of Pro is Con, what is the opposite of Progress? -- Tom Glennon)
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To: what's up
I guess some people think the Pope has the definition nailed down.

Then he ought to let us in on it. I would really like to know what his thinking is along those lines -- and why.

73 posted on 07/17/2008 5:26:43 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (If the opposite of Pro is Con, what is the opposite of Progress? -- Tom Glennon)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
One doesn’t need to subscribe to the man-made global warming myth to be a conscientious conservationist

Reasonable conservation isn't what the enviro-mental movement is about. It's about socialism.

The pope should be smart enough to know that.

74 posted on 07/17/2008 5:48:07 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: arasina

LOL< well you do make some interesting points there.


75 posted on 07/17/2008 6:24:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Annapolis, flight school, Congress, Senate, MIAs, Keating 5, Soros, Kerry... tried & found wanting!)
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To: DoughtyOne

BTTT


76 posted on 07/18/2008 12:46:23 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (If the opposite of Pro is Con, what is the opposite of Progress? -- Tom Glennon)
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To: Patriotic1
The Pope already speaks out about those things.

Those things are much more of a danger to human beings than 'global warming'. Sorry, but it seems like the pope just bowed to pressure from the politically correct crowd.

77 posted on 07/19/2008 11:10:27 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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